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Hey friends,

I said I’d unpause the Patreon when I finished the main channel video, and I still haven’t finished, so I’m going to leave it paused for another month. You won’t be charged on January 1.

Maybe I need the financial pressure to finally wrap this project up. I’m in the final stages so I’m not too worried!

Hope you’re all getting through the holidays okay. See you in 2024!

-Natalie

Comments

Emi Huang

Glad for the update Natalie :) no rush and I’d be glad if you didn’t pause it, even!

Spuggy Bear

Who didn’t see this coming 😂

jianna

happy new years lmao 😫

Tia Roja

Thanks Natalie, Happy New Year! You got this ❤️

booneroonie

merry winterstuffs we ❤️ you

Ren

No worries, happy new years! 🥂

Cabel

I hope the financial pressure is working for you. If you need to unpause to have the resources to finish I, for one, would not be offended.

Chrombus

Very excited to see what you’re cooking up.

plutonium

so excited to see it, but take your time and take care of yourself too. we love you <3

keira sage

been thinking of ur videos and awaiting ur return recently hope ur holidays are going well too!!❤️

Nemoquodeus

Always well worth the wait

Ju Hana

Can’t wait to see what you post. The happiest of new years Natalie 🫶🏽

Jonas

Happy new years Natalie!

Jenny Rodriguez

Looking forward to it, Natalie!! Happy new year!

Vampire Brat

you're so sweet Natalie 💜 happy new year & I'm excited to see your new content whenever it's complete!

Jake

Take ur time ❤️❤️❤️❤️

d52k

Hope you're having a great holiday season! By the way, I was reading Isabelle Graw's book On the Benefits of Friendship and was pleasantly surprised to see you mentioned in the text!

Kristina

You do whatever you gotta do

Daniel Burgos

Thanks for the update and the courtesy. Happy New Year!

Helena Real

Love you, queen! I hope this works for you 🥺🖤

Pierre Brown

Thank you for the transparency and honesty!! I hope you're well during this time!!!

Levan Kiknadze

Happy New Year, Natalie and thank you for everything in general ❤️💜 best wishes for 2024!

Kylie Prestridge

Thanks Natalie. Miss your content, but I do hope everything is going well with you. Don't stress too much about finishing the video, I have no doubt it'll be worth waiting for, and your well-being is more important. Happy New Year! 🎉

Ruben Flowers

Happy new year Natalie, can't wait to give you my money again c: (really looking forward to your new video)

Lune Bellec

Happy new year Natalie, looking forward to the next video, I hope you're still enjoying the holiday season!

Madi Stoller

Is there a way to do a one time donation if we want to support you this month?

edaV

Oooo, that means I still have time catch up on half a year of tangents then :D Happy New Year Natalie and all the rest of you awesome people.

Eric J

I’m excited to see it ^^ happy holidays!

CoreyBlue

Happy new year Nat, much love to you and yours. ❤️

FilthyJasmineTea

I fully view my money as funding additional harpsichords. The epic videos are just cream ;)

Kristina

Please take my money mom!

TPK Games

Honestly you don’t have to do this. Many people I support don’t meet ALL milestones and rewards. I’m happy to support no matter what.

Sabrina Penna

No pressure, but now we're really intrigued😁! Glad it's mostly done.

Ed Sylveste

Happy new year, integrity.

Tomme

We’ll never abandon you mother <3

Austin F

happy new year! i was just re-watching your old tangents a couple days ago, actually (because i was in a car for 13 hours with nothing else to do lol). they're all so engaging, i feel spoiled for even having so many of them. (also, AI anita bryant singing WAP still makes me laugh every time) my point is that you can take all the time you need, because you already go above and beyond for us. <3

Xiola Azuthra

Feels like it takes me forever and a day to do anything at all these days and I'm doing nothing ambitious so whenever it's done rest assured it will be sooner than if it were me! I just have to tell myself that slow progress is still progress. I'll enjoy it whenever it gets here. ❤️

Gart Kundalini

Happy New Year! Hope you had a good holiday season!

Jason

Artistic endeavors take time, I don't support you to speed up the creative process, I support you so you can be creative and share your final results. Do you what you have to and we'll wait with bated breath for your next video :)

Henry Anderson

Would’ve been more than happy to pay 🫶🫶🫶

Ryan Kearns

Take your time, Nyat. We’ll be here when you’ve finished 🙏

Linocut Moon

For me, being one of your patrons is about supporting your creativity without expectations of outcome. Please don’t feel you need to pause Patreon because of some deadline you’re expected to meet. We’re all good here. (To put it in perspective, my PhD took me ten years so however many extra months for one of your masterpieces is well worth waiting for. )

Eman Collins

Take your time! You're doing great!!! 😊😊😊

AskJeeves

We love you and think you’re fantastic.

Jenna

Yes to this!!

Patryk Zep

Happy New Year, Natalie and all Patrons ❣️

Sophia

I am SO okay with waiting exactly however long this takes. Wishing you peace of mind in 2024!!! 😊

davidsasselhoff

We love you, Natalie! Happy New Year and thank you for what you do 🖤

Sara

I only just saw the Barbie movie,, and was finally able to watch the Barbie Tangent. This caused me to binge the others.

Chris Fox

max contribution for 1 year for every month you "pause"... Take your time. :D

James Mire

Happy New Year Natalie! 🍾🎆 And a Happy New Year to everyone else in the Contrapoints community! 🥂

Maggie Sullivan

miss you! just appreciate you, no need to rush your process we will support u anyway!! happy new year >:)

tbhidk420

Bruh I never even watch these lmao just take my money

CJ The X

let her cook

Will E.

ma’am please take my money

Jessica Cheeri

I hope you have a fantastic New Year and thank you for keeping us updated

Tyler D

No rush, Natalie!! Hope you have a great New Year💕💕💕

Jaololpes

Love you Nat. You can take my money whenever you want. Hope this financial pressure helps you. I'll be here either way ❤️

Finn

Hope you have a happy new year, Natalie!

TpzBlau

I mean you could send us a few more Harpsichord videos our way to make up for it!

Sappho's Friend

I'm eagerly avaiting the new main channel video, i wish i knew what it's about :') , Happy New Year Contra.

Matt Close

Question: what's going on with you and Keffals? I like both of you but, there seems to be some tension between you 2? 🤔

Nikko

Happy New Year 🥂

Charlie B

Happy new year Natalie!

ContraPoints

Don’t worry I promise there will soon be more opportunities to give me money

ContraPoints

Think of it less as me underpaying myself, and more me going on strike against myself

B

Tbh I’d be happy with just one main channel video a year and like 4 tangent videos lol

Diana.H.

Be nice with yourself, and happy new year !

Laura G

I am reminded of a cartoon of a writer sitting at her typewriter who finds the angel of death standing in front of her. She says, "Thank you so much! I need a deadline to finish stuff." Happy new year!

Bogo

*Insert “please wrap it up” meme here*

purpleforest

no worries! so so excited for the new video!

Hellström

Please, keep stalling for three more months, and then, finally, release a two hour unbroken footage of a dog shit being gradually illuminated by the rising sun, on April the 1st.

Caygreen

All good things xx

Nando Rossi

If it helps you, cool. Sometimes pressure is good, sometimes it’s bad. Remember there’s a difference between time off and time you’re not working but feeling the pressure to produce. Maybe you need a bit of the former… if so, I’m happy to contribute (so like, feel free to unpause whenever you like)

Bendix Burchard

Take care of yourself! Happy new year :)

Eddie

Good luck Natalie !

Madeline Wilson

Happy new year, Natalie! You’re a rockstar.

Alice

Keep at it, Natalie. You can do it!

Jayemdee

Insert **Shut up and take my money*** meme! But seriously, I would be ok paying you for a month without content. Don't take too much of a financial hit.

Jayemdee

I'm hoping you have a happy and healthy 2024!

Simon Ellis

In my head I was paying for the longer ones only, as they are the ones I like. But fear not, I'll spend your subscription well. H

David Allee

Have a happy new year, Natalie.

Quotetta

I am proud to be a Patreon of yours. Your Tangents have been a highlight of my 2023 experience, thank you so much they exist. Happy to have discovered you and thanks for all the beautiful references. Happy holidays!

Nickedg

Take the money, then we can guilt you into finishing :)

Jessica in LA

Thanks Natalie! You’re the best ❤️

Julio Casar fernandez

I like it so much seeing the comment of how much you mean to us ♥️

CrystalJade

I know how you feel….. I have an unwritten paper and presentation, with so many ideas that don’t seem to converge easily. Some might think it’s procrastination, but the reality is very different. The story line has to come together with a clear message, building implicitly towards that point. It’s hard to do even when you start narrow. The message just keeps evolving before my eyes! Looking forward to your next creation Natalie!

Tanner Gore

Godspeed but also keep us waiting as long as you need!!!

ikram hammi

See u soon then Nathalie, take care of u 💓

erinliz

See you soon Nat!

Arianne

No worries! Please don’t put too much pressure on yourself. It’s a weird time we’re living in where artists are appreciated in real time and everyone is hungry for more. But creation needs input not just output, it needs rest and living your life so you have somewhere to pull ideas and perspectives from. Personally I wouldn’t care if you disappeared for 5 years in favour of a nomadic lifestyle herding goats on the outskirts of Ulaanbaatar. I’d still enjoy being a patreon throughout that time just for what you have already given me. Happy new year! 💛

Amber Holland

Happy New Year! Can’t wait to see what you release into the wild.

AnkhKeeper

Happy new year Natalie! As much as I want to see a new video, knowing that you are not pushing yourself too much all the time is more important to me. It is okay to just have fun and rest, even more so considering that you have been releasing masterpiece after masterpiece. Please take care of yourself!

SophieT

Happy New Year Natalie! I hope this idea helps in all the right ways and I'm super happy you've got other things cooking, it's intriguing!! Is it a world tour? A line of fragrances? Merch? Your own brand of sushi?! A Casino?!! 2024 already sounds fun :D

Brigi

No pressure Natalie, happy New Year ! Uwu

Ryan Storey

No worries! I appreciate the transparency. Maybe some input, though? Perhaps it's time to reconsider the scope of your videos. I feel like your projects have been getting a little too ambitious for the amount of work there is to do for one person, especially if you want these videos done in the timeframe you want them to. I think it might be time to consider one of two things: either scaling back and doing smaller videos that you can produce more often (something like the Tangents — I really feel like those should be main channel videos, at least after a couple months on Patreon as they can at least help keep your channel active). OR if you want to keep up with these more ambitious projects, it might be time to consider hiring some help: Be that a cowriter, research assistant, editor, etc. I love that you do most of your work yourself, but at the end of the day, you can't always do it all and I'm not sure if the workload you have now is sustainable. Burnout is real. Take this with a grain of salt of course. Obviously, I'm here and I support you regardless. I know I can't possibly understand the pressure someone like you has being one of the trailblazers in the video essay genre on YouTube (along with Hbomberguy, who just put out his long-delayed big video as we all know).

XavierTeatime

I'm getting sprinkles of Natalie Wynn content in Bee and Puppycat on Netflix so it's all good.

Grady Wiehe

Fellow Libra queen, I for one find your inability to keep a deadline very empowering and affirming. I feel seen. Keep up the good work 🙌

Sabrina Strix

I'm excited for this video! I know you've been working on it for over a year now so I know it will be special!

Joe Johnston

Please do not burn yourself out. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For what it is worth, I am comfortable with you re-enabling patreon payments now. Cheers!

Taru Mäkelä

Whatever! You owe us literally nothing.

LSDFR2

Happy new year Natalie and fellow Patrons!

Bruno Sauvagnat

I mean I genuinely do not mind paying. I get you wanting to focus on the main channel video and looking forward to see it, but I did something similar when I was finishing my master degree thesis and IMO financial pressure doesn't really help being more productive. It just made me hate writing. Either way, hope you take care and have a happy new year.

George Clutterbuck

Natalie, I'm so excited for your next video and am overjoyed to be a Patron. Have a gorgeously well-lit and effortlessly sophisticated beginning to the New Year 🥰

putdownartist

Thanks for being an ethical capitalist

JungMoses

WELL, in retaliation I have upped my membership level, which wasn't at the absolute maximum already for reasons I can't understand, so take that. We will ruin your marxist credentials whether you like it or not, you bourgie sellout hey how are you! Love ya, thanks for all that you do, and have an absolutely gorge New Year!

Lucien Gates

please remember to balance out stretches of hyper-focus on work with self care time. it may seem counter intuitive but taking care of yourself actually save times in the long run

Mimi

Happy New Year

Martyś

Happy New Year Natalie 💖

Benjamin Dufault

Happy New Year Natalie! I hope you are taking the night off and enjoying taking some time for you <3

Simon_Dinosaur

Natalie has defeated Capitalism. I am in awe once again. Happy New Year!

Annabelle_Thann

Happy new year! can't wait for everything 2024 has to bring for you

Hugo Pellerin

All the best for this year, Natalie. Thank you so much for you work. Hope you can take care of yourself. :)

Garga Lenoir

For what it's worth Contrapoints I don't mind paying you when you don't release content, because your content takes so much work and reflexion (even if I bet you don't feel like it). When I watched videos like Envy I felt that it was freaking ground breaking, not just fun and well researched. So yeah of course it takes time and effort to produce stuff like that.

Garga Lenoir

Smash capitalism using that one weird trick (starving)!

thien thy

for some reasons i still get charged?

thien thy

yeah im not sure how this "paused payment" thing works. maybe patreon still charges us even if natalie doesn't get any payment? i hope someone can clarify this. already sent a request to patreon help

Laura Puentes

I am not complaining, I am happy to pay, but FYI I think we were still charged.

Sloane

Same here

Alice Distelberger

Yeaaaah I also got charged, maybe there wasn't enough notice for patreon to cancel the processing of the payments?

Patrick O'neill

I got charged but I don't mind. Cat girl beauty treatments won't pay for themselves.

val

just letting you know that i was still charged. don't mind really but just so you know

Jordan

I got charged but I don’t mind, Happy New Year, Natalie

Andy Ferr

Still got charged.

ANDREA

happy new year ✨

Y. Lakov

I also still got charged

Dr Shaun Murphy

I was charged. I DO mind. Goddam Natalie, u could start a cult with this blind devotion I see here. Maybe need to flog these people tho for not respecting yr wishes. If u wanted a pause, they SHOULD mind that they were charged.

Rachael Goins

I was also charged! Happy new year!

Dr Shaun Murphy

I want Natalie to read these comments so she knows we got charged, but also, I don't want her to ever see this shit becuz it looks bad for someone's psyche. The worship is gross people, & she's only mortal. How's she expected to not grow a monster ego reading these comments? Calm down. She's a good writer & set designer, & sorta funny on top of that. An actual person who gives her money every month as we all do here, says "u owe us nothing". Idk if they understand how this works. She owes us something. It's what we pay for. Am I just seeing rich kid comments, or is this level of crazy I see in these comments what stans look like? Real question, I'm curious in an anthropology sort of way. Don't forget people, Natalie isn't yr friend. She doesn't know u & wouldn't even help u move yr stuff, even if a single chair was all yr furniture.

Demyr

There might be some truth to that, but I don't think most people saying "I don't mind" mean "it's fine nothing wrong happened". I'm personally okay with it because while I'm happy for bonus content, the real reason I'm here is to support creators I like, not buy things from them. However this is obviously still a mistake that should be addressed (as it has) and not everyone operates under this idea

huff

I think it's probably because she still releases very high quality (and high effort) videos for free on her youtube channel. Many people are not here only for the extra content, but just to support a creator they enjoy. Like in any other medium besides youtube, it would be absurd to expect that level of content for free. Idk I'm only paying two bucks a months, maybe I'd be more bothered if I were paying more.

Dr Shaun Murphy

I was only being half serious. She could probably get a cult going tho, with the zeal that enuf of these express

Austin F

we know she works very hard on the videos and a lot of us have empathy towards burnout (especially the creative types), so we're willing to give her a break. it's really not that deep. i'm sure there's some obsessiveness for some people, but it's very weird to me that you'd make these assumptions just because people aren't mad at a creator they like. also most of us aren't even paying that much lol, it was only $2 out of my account. i spent more than that on the soda i got at 7/11 this morning.

kt

“Rich kid comments” lmao most people are prob giving $24 a year

Christina

Patreon is not a shop and Natalie should not feel bad for taking a long time.

Dr Shaun Murphy

But how long would u feel that way if they stopped producing? U could sponsor an actual person in danger of being put outside. Natalie agrees with me, that she should produce for the money. It's why she's paused.

Dr Shaun Murphy

Who saidbshe should feel bad? She's the one pausing so I'm guessing she agrees with me, that she owes us something for the money. I'm just laughing about people who arenlike "just take my money I don't even care" when even Natalie cares. It's not healthy

kt

Oh my god dude who cares? I don’t give a shit that I was charged. It’s not “unhealthy” I’m just not $2 away from destitution and if I was I wouldn’t be on patreon

Dr Shaun Murphy

Not becuz they aren't mad. Why would they be mad when they probably realize it's an honest mistake. But becuz of the "take my money i don't owe us nothing" attitude. I just came to see what happened since I got her msg about continuing the pause, then saw I was charged. I expected "just lettin u know, we got charged anyway" & then Natalie would be like "oh crap, Patreon problems.....". I bet Natalie agrees with me is what's funny. She is an intelligent adult person who probably isn't that comfortable with these extreme feelings from strangers & she's the one who pauses becuz she's not producing. Then again harnessing parasociality is powerful so maybe she's just waiting to start the cult. I think she's cool tho.

kt

I think you might be deeper into that parasociality than you think doctor lol

Dr Shaun Murphy

i have her address & I personally put envelopes of cash under her door. I add a tip of $1. There are $3 in that envelope & I ask only that she continue to exist in return.

K

Hi Natalie, it is clear that you sincerely care about doing the right thing by all of us. We are happy to support your work and don't stress about things "taking too long" or if you make a mistake. You're human and things happen! For me, your work is valuable and I'm very glad to contribute to your ability to think and create in a sustainable and humane way. Cheers <3

Daughters of Ferrix

extremely weird judgmental energy in this reply lmao just let people have their own opinions about things

Sappho's Friend

yeah im hella weirded out by the parasocially delusional folk who comment here. Like, deeply viscerally uncomfortable to the point it's a physical sensation. You defo lost me at the subsequent cult comments tho

Sappho's Friend

Demyr Nox, they arent referring to these comments that just say she shouldnt stress herself out about it (I agree ofc, accidents happen all the time) , rather I and OP saw so many people leaving comments literally saying "you dont owe us anything" and "just take my money already mother" sorts of intensely parasocially fuelled comments. Sure many and most people only pay 2 dollars a month, but not everyone does, and people need informed consent before they purchase a particular subscription, and should be clear on when they are vs arent being charged, so that part is owed regardless.

Dr Shaun Murphy

"I don't mind" isn't what i was referring to. I feel like that's what everyone who was upset by me thinks I meant. But those are the sane responses. I don't really mind either, but mainly because it's $2. Plus there was no malice. I think her assumption that a pause meant pause until pressing play again was pretty obvious thing to assume, not sure why Patreon doesn't get that most people would assume that.

Dr Shaun Murphy

I agree, we should let me have my own opinions about things. Tho judging stuff is good if u can justify yr judgements. Not judging isn't a virtue, & I listen to Contrapoints to hear her judgements on things.

Dr Shaun Murphy

I said she Could start a cult, not that she Should. Just saying it's this kind of thing that makes it possible. Which is probably part of what makes it so viscerally uncomfortable. People simply not minding what they assume was a mistake is basic generosity of spirit, but some of those comments.......well u know. Finally there's a Me understanderer I like when some of them say "we feel think this or that". Who is "we"? I guess no single person is the only person to feel a certain way about a public event or person, so whatever one has to say about any of those they can assume others would say the same. So maybe we should all say "we" instead of "I" when we express ourselves. The Unabomber used the word we to introduce his manifesto to make it feel like it wasn't just him.

Meghan Elizabeth

Again, fully on board with the Natalie cult…

Alperen Yıldız

But the thing is I am genuinely donating just 2 bucks for a content creator I like. I am not buying anything and I did not even know there were tangents here. Supporting the creators you like with donations is probably a better model than engagement model YouTube uses that results in rage-baits and my daily commute to work and school probably costs more than 2 bucks anyways.

John Palomino

Just saw this. Charge me anyway!

Bobby

You are the most conscious / conscientious ... ? smart lady I have ever heard. Your ramblings are eloquent and emotive, even inspiring. You deserve support and appreciation. You made my life hopeful through a massive depression after loosing my brother to an overdose. You are truly a light in this dark world. And you are a fabulous fashionista and intellectual. IDK.... a thousand words arent enough to praise you. Please just keep on keeping on <3

Teageen

I'm curious to understand what you mean by this? By my view, not charging us because she thinks she isn't being productive enough actually seems very capitalist. Like the idea that people only deserve the resources they need to live (eg money) if they do a certain amount of work. Genuinely curious about your thinking, not trying to be rude