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Hi all,

I've never done this before, but I've decided to pause Patreon billing for next month. You will not be charged on December 1st.

I've made this decision because I still haven't finished the main channel video I've been working on, and I don't want to go too deep into Tangent debt while finishing it. Billing will resume in January, provided I have released the main channel video by then (which I'd better lol). I also owe you a November Tangent.

I know some of you have no problem supporting me even if I'm not releasing exactly the amount of content I've planned, and I'm very grateful for your generosity. Nevertheless, I feel more honest sticking to my promises and not charging you until the content is ready. I have made enough money this year and will be fine.

Thanks as always for your patience and support. I hope to finally have the main channel video up in a few weeks, with a couple Tangents shortly to follow!

Happy holidays, or protest days, or whatever it is you're all up to.

Best,

Natalie

Comments

Tom

Girly why? let us support you 💖

James Lacey

I'd still be happy to support, but nice to see you sticking to your guns. Can't wait for the new main channel video!

Kodo Elder-Groebe

Thanks for your candor and transparency. Looking forward to seeing what you cook up next!

Curious Gorge

Looking forward to the CatGirl Dialectics tangent!

Jack Morris

Love you and your content, and appreciate your commitment to us as supporters! ♥️

sam

🩵🩵🩵🩵

Maxim Foster

No worries, we luv u contra!!

FilthyJasmineTea

All is good. Take a break if you need and we look forward to the next gem :)

Tony

We love you

Lynn Short

You will be missed. Happy Holidays

Adora Griepentrog

May the feast day of St Conan bring you what is best in life.

froot encore

Will be looking to forward to the tangents and the main channel video whenever they're ready

Daniel Tufeanu

Appreciate your dedication, I'm sure most of us would be happy to support you nevertheless, but it shows a lot of professionalism to do this 😄 hope all is well, professionally and personally ☺️

Katya

Don’t burn yourself out! Take as much time as you need, especially with life happening the way it is. I respect you caring about your principles, but I’m sure none of us mind. We’d rather have you around healthy than another video and no Natalie.

shoval gilead

Sending love, take all the time you need 🫶🏼 very thankful for you especially now when I’m going through a hard time and your rewatching your videos help sm :)

Jude Filippides

I really appreciate this! To be honest I don’t usually even notice when I’m being charged and nothing is posted but now I’m aware I have an extra $2 for coffee or something, so thanks :) excited for the next video!!

Ren

Take ur time!! Ur transparency is always well appreciated 🖤

Cookie

Girl you killed it this year! Super proud in the most parasocial way!! Hope you get to rest with loved ones today!

Noemi Green

I wouldn’t really care. Please take my money. The wait is always worth it ❤️💕

bailey bayer

Endlessly thankful for you, Natalie. You have changed mine and many other lives. Happy holidays <333

ChatN

Respect. Just don't push yourself too hard. Looking forward to whatever content you release. :)

highclass_lady

We support you! & while I'd be more than happy to support you on Patreon every month regardless, I hope this is helpful to your mental health, & helps you feel some relief. Take as much time as you need! Please be kind to yourself

Serena

take your time and take care of yourself ♥️♥️♥️

Millie

Happy holidays Natalie! You rock.

Jason

Providing nothing but the most parasocially healthy love and support over here :) Happy holidays!

Raye

Much appreciated. Happy Thanksgiving and looking forward to the next thing

Jake

No prob!! Thanks for the update 😀

Jessica Cheeri

I'm in the camp of always happy to help and support, so if a pause helps. Hope everything is going well with you this season and that you get some time to spend with loved ones too

Jamie Daly

I can’t wait for the new video but also I have no choice so please take all the time you need

Deviant Ollam

Whatever makes you feel the most satisfied, that's naturally what we would want. Please have a wonderful happy and safe end of 2023 and we will catch you on future releases and live streams. 💚👍

Nutshell Brainery

I think I speak for most of us when I say our support isn't transactional. Don't make figure out how to give a one-off tip. That would piss me off. 😉

Sam Greenberg

FYI: I don't really have much interest in the tangents. I want to support your work, so do so here. Don't worry about the side benefits; I'm happy with the main videos (whenever those come out :) ).

Lily Rafton

All good! Don't forget to look after yourself! Enjoy turkey day or whatever americans do this weekend

val

take ur time!!!! however long u take for the next upload im sure is worth it I'll still be subbed to ur patron regardless

Hannah Reid

No worries. We don't mind waiting. X

OldGuardBard

Working on my thesis, and the half hopeful, half exasperated "I'd better have it published by January lol" is pretty much my current vibe. Hang in there, we can do it! Happy holidays!

Juliana Tudda

Love you contra 🩷 happy holidays. My country (Argentina) has elected a fascist president, so I'll definitely be protesting lol.

Jenkka

It's okay, enjoy your holidays yay

OnlyUkeThatMatters

You’re classy, Natalie! Wishing you some time to relax and recharge during these dark months

Smush face

Thank you Natalie. Have a good holiday weekend xxx

Matt Close

You have other content we can watch like your piano videos or gaming stuff?

Shelby R.

Hope you have a great holiday season!

Paul Ortega

Take the time you need. Good luck and I hope we get to see your next project when it's good and ready.

Leahbunny

Rocking your ethics girl!!! Thanks for helping me on my journey 🙂

Bogo

Queen.

Aaron Perez

Hah, Jokes on you, I’ll just upgrade my Patreon membership. TAKE MY MONEY MOTHER. I WOULD DIE FOR YOU!

Tyler D

No rush at all!! 💕 All of us are happy to wait for quality. Thanks for being open and honest.

LEBuwu

take your time! happy holidays :)

Khannea

How about Onlyfans/Manyvids? Only joking.

Teri Cadz

Always just happy to hear from you! Not keeping tabs on when.

Jon Skoog

That's very considerate! Looking forward to your new content when it's ready!

Alex Habriga

Happy Gobble Gobble, Natalie.

Xiola Azuthra

Although I'd be completely happy to pay, I get it - if it were me something like this would probably help my brain stay on track/feel more comfortable for a few reasons. I'm just glad to hear you've done well this year and I'm looking forward to any type of content whenever we get it! <3

ongoingwow

Support you in doing whatever you feel is right. Excited for whatever drops next :)

Rosa Writings

I would pay without question but I feel strangely touched at this gesture.

Sergio Augusto

Damn! I was happy just supporting you for the main channel videos now with Tangents I don't even feel it's fair. But hey how about you charge us for the month and donate to to something Palestine aid related as a seasonal gift from your community?

CoffeePoints

noooooo pls let the simps simp :'/

Chrombus

It’s a good idea to pause. A deal is a deal, and I very much appreciate you knowing it’s important to honour that. Can’t wait for the main channel video! Bet it will be great.

Louise Howard

Is there a paypal addr to help support you while you get your shit together?

Eddie

Looking forward :) Good luck !

Eric Kaplan

that's very noble but you could totally keep charging -- we are supporting you as a creator, not buying individual creations imo.

Eric Williams

I’m glad you don’t crank them out just to make a deadline. Maybe there is a way of letting people opt back in to pay if we wish. You are the best, and a I am thankful for you 😎😎

John Daniel

Super excited to see what's coming. Take your time, we'll eat it up when it drops. 🙌🏻

marco

I entirely commend this decision 💙

MrMoodle

I appreciate this! I don't want to sound like a dick, but I did sub this month with the expectation that a vid was releasing this month. I would've stayed subbed anyway because I think your content is worth a couple months of payment, but it's true that I don't usually send money to random people I like expecting nothing in return lol. I do feel like an asshole saying this while everyone else is saying their monetary support isn't conditional. But my point is that I think this is a very respectable thing to do.

Prutt

This is heartbreaking

Pierre Brown

I was wondering why we didn't get a Halloween and Thanksgiving gaming stream this year and it makes sense to me now; Our girl is working and living!!! Thanks for the transparency and I look forward to watching whenever your art is ready! :)

Kapelski

I feel like tangents are better videos than the ones on the main channel

Cortney Howard

Aw thank you! You didn’t have to but we all appreciate it! I’ll donate a little extra this holiday season. I look forward to the main channel video, but don’t be too hard on yourself, even if we get it in January

purpleforest

ur awesome dont worry abt it :))))!

grremly

Me too. In fact it makes me more comfortable to continue supporting whether there's tangents or not.

jtown5000

Honestly, you could have still charged me, I don’t mind

LSDFR2

Looking forward to the videos but make sure you take some time out over the holidays too! The tangents have been amazing thanks very much for all of them. Liminal spaces was my favorite :)

Anastasia

How can we pay anyway?

Morrow

You don't need to worry about this, please don't stress about it! If anything I'm sure you work too hard, given how epic your main channel videos are so if you need to take a pause on the tangents for a couple of months, it's no problemo! and I am happy to keep donating through that period!

Darren DM

This break will pay for my Friday donut, so it's a win-win.

Eric C

You could upgrade your membership to make up for the paused month (assuming you're not at the highest tier)

IgnisXIII

Mother, naur! I see though... Very well. Unnecessary, but respectable and responsible. Just take care and do resume it if needed, EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T RELEASED ANYTHING YET! It won't do to have our queen suffer any lack of opulence 🖤✨ The kingdom is willing and able.

holdorz

🫂❤️

Isaac Mac

You are too kind, I’d gladly have paid anyway! Next year build in some scheduled months off! And not like months off where you’re actually just taking extra time to do a longer video. Like real months off. Everyone needs a vacation! 😎

Aurelian

I would more than happily continue supporting you. Knowledge work is invisible but laborious. I'm more than satisfied to give you the mental and emotional space to do this intensely hard work.

Jaololpes

Luv Natalie ❤️ Hope this helps in your process

CLOUD95

Do your thing

Max W

You could make a video about weasels, and I would gladly pay $2, or $6, or $60, for the privilege of watching it. Take your time, queen 🤎

ANDREA

love youu ❤️❤️

Paul Williams

Happy to support. Your greatest value is just being out in the world.

mm

I mean, power to you and everything, but thank god you don't have employees relying on you. You gotta get a schedule together and learn some basic deadline planning

Mike

Charge me IDGAF

Lars Overdale

Thank you, Natalie, that’s very thoughtful (even if most of us probably wouldn’t mind a missed tangent anyway lol)

mm

I feel like they're about what used to be main channel content back in the day, and are at least consistent. Besides, if a topic is 'meh' personally, it's not a big deal as you know a new one is coming. Once a year main channel videos is insane to me but given the crazed servile flattery of these comments I must be alone

mm

I don't think you read that correctly in context

Fatal Cutie Studio

That’s okay! Will be happy to see what you make whenever you make it! Also, I could use the extra bucks, so no complaints.

Made of Stardust

What?!?! Take my money mommy!! But on a serious note: can't wait for the main channel video, and I hope you have a wonderful holiday!

Ian Hickson

I have increased my pledge amount to $22/month so that over the next year the amount comes out roughly the same.

Matthew Creen

Another reason you are the best--thank you, Natalie!

Rin Welborn

<3 always thankful for you,, i love your work!!

Dan Cole

Shut up and take my money!

Conor Diskin

You're such a fucking legend. X

Isaac Mac

I mean also give yourself some months to take extra time. Just make sure you get breaks too!

Anastasia

Great suggestion!

Sabrina Penna

I really hope you're having a good holiday. Pausing the charges is a very nice thing to do as we enter this time of year. Like everyone else, I'll be very happy to consume what you give us when you feel it's ready. Be well.

Jayemdee

Omg, I love you so much. Parasocial relationships be damned. Take your time and be happy and healthy! We all truly want only good things for you, Mother.

Katie Harris

What a sweetie! We know you're busy dude no biggie. Hope you had a great holiday!

Andrew May

As someone who takes on too much, can’t say no, and self-castigates for not always sticking to my commitments (yikes, I should talk to someone), I appreciate your honesty and candor. Pace yourself; we are excited for your work!

Dave L

It's all good. Rest up and eat some leftovers.

Mollie Cahill

I appreciate your transparency and integrity on this, even if I don't even need the latter (lol). You're the best 🥰

Shady_P0tat0

Wishing you the best of luck with whatever social, and emotional struggles seem to be placing such a demand on you 🖤🤍♥️

Lee S.

An integrity slay, we love you parasocially and unconditionally, take all the time you need I'm happy watching liminal spaces tangent on repeat

Matthew Bennett

based as usual. have a great thanksgiving

John Giacobello

Feeling grateful for you and your art today, thank you Natalie

FredShoey

Whatever you think is best. Thanks for the tangents.

Ju Hana

Unfortunately we have a parasocial relationship where I don’t see you as a content cow so take the time that is necessary. Thanks for the transparency though 🫶🏽

George Clutterbuck

Much gratitude for your integrity and on behalf of that relative who will now get a slightly fancier Xmas gift 🙌 P.S. your appearance on Adam Buxton's podcast was lovely

CrystalJade

I’m looking forward to more of your work. It’s always a happy day when you publish, because I appreciate all of your hard work. Hopefully this will give you the space you need to also enjoy the process. You always give us your best. Take care Natalie! Xx

Paul McGee

Well, let's hope it won't come to that. But noted ✅️ 🙂

Christophe Spurling

❤️ no worries. I mean it takes a long time. What you do takes time! For what it's worth the pomodoro technique saved me when I was struggling to focus. 🍅 don't stress, we have had plenty of content this year. I'd be happy to keep paying for years on account of time served. ❤️

Callum McLean

Your honesty and thoughtfulness on this is unsurprising but very much appreciated! This Patreon is invaluable, honestly, but in any case I wouldn't have had a problem paying for one month without a new tangent. Hope you can take the time you need and not feel too pressured to deliver.

Paul Coghill

Always love your work whenever it’s released. Hope you’re taking time for work life balance; letting go of some control and collaborating more with others could help you get a better balance in the production.

Taru Mäkelä

So nice of you! Good luck and remeber, you don't owe your work to anyone!

RSS

I honestly don't keep count and am happy to fund your work even it if it takes longer to make a video sometimes than others. But given how you feel about being "in debt" with the videos I think this is a very sensible and rational thing to do if you can afford it. Take care. <3

frogsmore

I feel in debt to you Natalie, so, though I don't question your motives, it doesn't sit very comfortably with me. The small amount of money I transfer to you each month is a token of my gratitude to you rather than payment for services rendered – an ongoing offering, not a bill settled. I would prefer the transfer went ahead as normal. x

Tore Nielsen

That's very decent of you, but I don't think you had to. :-) Take care.

Irina Mirinda

Take all the space you need, for the health of our parasocial relationship! <3 Also we're happy to fund your decorum and ambient lights addiction

Jesse DeStasio

I'm supporting the artists, not the schedule. Take all the time you need!

Trying my best

Just to provide some contrast to all the positive feelings here (which are justified), I'd like to note that I really respect that choice and think it was the right call. Not because I would mind the 2$ (I wouldn't), but because Patreon isn't charity, and you shouldn't feel like you're living off of the kindness of others; it's a way for us to pay for your work, not a parasocial clutch.

Bendix Burchard

I pay you so that you can follow wherever your Intuition and artistic drive lead you. If it takes a year it takes a year. If it takes 5 years it takes 5 years.

Ann C

I marvel at your creativity and the scope of your projects, so I'm happy to wait while you finish the main channel video and think about what's next. In the meantime, I'll rewatch my favorite ContraPoints videos, like The Darkness, Pronouns, Gender Critical, Envy, the JKRs, (etc.) and the Tangents. You could always record a short harpsichord or piano performance. That would satisfy us (or at least me) for quite a while. This isn't necessary at all, of course. I appreciate and enjoy the work you've already done.

Brian Park

Boooo I want you to take my money!

Kia Nicole Tudor

In retaliation, I will up my tier and pay another dollar per month.

Kia Nicole Tudor

Hmm. I guess 3 more, since that's how the tiers work.

pinh3d_ (Jack)

Big respect for this, but also don't put so much pressure on yourself that u break queen 💗

Kristina

This is more than generous and more than worth it for a main channel upload too! Have a great holiday season and be gentle with yourself, we’re all here because we already feel like we’re getting a great deal 😉 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

andré

I get your point but it only makes sense if you consider work only as the final product. If you're paying for her work you're also paying for her research, thinking, editing etc.

Jessie Lees

I don't mind paying regardless of video release dates. I've been signed up for months and haven't had time to watch until now. Although, I can't complain either, this is an expensive time of year and every dollar counts. More so if I had a higher subscription to you though. Thanks for making affordable content. I look forward to the next video when you finally get to it. No rush. 🙂

Megalomaniac64

All I ask is if you could announce when the next tangent poll is up. I'm currently at the two dollar tier but I've been curious to see you revisit incels or manosphere topics. I've been seeing people outside those communities speak on those issues alot lately, people who aren't even incels are parroting hypergamy, so I feel like it's gained more traction lately.

Jessica Wilber

I made a resolution many years ago not to engage with anyone online who I hadn't met in the flesh, at least once. And that includes anything that might fall under the heading of "commentary" or "discourse". This is the first time I've made an exception, but I do so without reservation as the matter seems pressing. On the one hand, I really, really appreciate how much effort you put into what you do, since the vast majority of what's churned out by Internet Content Creators is absolute dreck, at best. And some of the most successful of your ilk are, alas, also some of the worst offenders. On the other hand, and this is my Main Point: You have got to cut yourself some slack, woman! Far as I'm concerned, you're easily among the best of your breed. And while you appear to be doing just fine financially (judging from your wardrobe and furnishings, say - which by the way are fabulous) I doubt you're raking it in hand over fist. Nor did I notice any Contrapoints brand chocolate bars on offer last time I passed through the candy aisle at the Safeway, so I guess you haven't achieved stratospheric levels of fame either. Yet you have been subject to all the professional hazards associated with your line, in full force. In short, I can't see how anyone who values your stuff half as much as I do would begrudge you a few bucks in absence of any new content, and for a good deal longer than a lone month. For God's sake, the mid-tier membership fee is cheaper than a single movie ticket (And while I watch very few movies these days, I get the distinct impression most of those are pretty lousy too.) In short, I can only speak for myself, but I would force money on you if I could, just to spite this demon of self-deprecation that seems to be riding you very hard of late. (And I ain't raking it in at all, I assure you)

KF5TQN

I didn't sign up for tangent videos, I signed up to support your work in exploring philosophical realms that are alien to me.

putdownartist

Thanks for being an ethical capitalist

Damon Harris

Momma, you have given us ELEVEN VIDEOS in the last year, and they are excellent, even if they don’t meet your incredibly high standards for main channel videos. Do whatever you feel you need to do, but let’s be real, a Tangent video is WAY more work than an AMA stream and your Tangents could be top tier YouTube content relative to pretty much any other YouTuber. I hope you are giving yourself enough credit for how prolific you have been since you changed up your Patreon content. I support you finding whatever balance between YouTube and Patreon works best for you and allows you to keep pushing yourself as a creator while also maintaining a sustainable life as a human person.

Cassidy Brinn

I am relatively new to Patreon. Do people ever do "guest" content? Like, one month another artist might share something on your account and benefit from your audience, and you'd have the chance to take a break? I would love to see something like that, and get to know what creators you vibe with

Cassidy Brinn

Although I agree with the many voices that I understand Patreon as supporting a creator's work, not buying specific end -products.

Dr Benway

Well, you do seem like the kind of girl who's up for doing anything once. Probably one of your safer decisions in that regard. When you're reddy, we're ready., Helen.

Sadie

Agreed! Thanks Natalie

Risc

This is very good of you and not at all necessary, I'm other patreons where you only get about 2 videos a year!

sunlit_music

Thanks very much for letting us know, Natalie. Take care, and Happy Holidays.

Anna Glin

please don't feel like you owe us or have to catch up on tangents! I love the tangents, but don't stress yourself out over them. I'm not mad if you skip a month, and those who are can leave, no one's forcing them to be a patron. just communicate it to us and it'll be fine :)

Maiasia Grimes

Thanks for the update and the openness. I appreciate all your content immensely, and my patreon subscription gives me access to it even when you aren't uploading new stuff. You know this, obviously, but like everyone else commenting, I just wanted to say, thanks for caring and wanting to provide your audience with quality content and sincere engagement.

Maria Knickerbocker

Thank you Natalie. You are ethical and kind. Although I do t know you personally, I feel like I do. Be kind to yourself. Happy Holidays to you.

Amanda Halbrock

I'm perfectly fine with it being paused but giving the money for the month to charity instead of keeping it could also be an option if you're in a situation like this. Because I've already decided that I don't need this money and knowing that a nice chunk of money went to a good charity would make me feel better than just nothing happening (which is fine but also not actively bringing me joy) (don't know how everyone else would feel about it but that's where my mind went)

Rachel Muir

A thoughtful thing to do, for us and for you. A genuine question in response to such kindness -- how does one make a one time donation to you, in addition to a regular subscription? Simply would like to show support when I can.

Anna the Smiling Cat

Whatever feels right for you. When you are back to doing tangents may I suggest "Peace and Love, what have happened to that" as a topic?

IamBrix

Agreed. A part two on her video “Men” is so necessary rn. More necessary than ever

Johanna

Please take your time and take care of yourself, gorg!! ^_^ 🖤

Stander Reeds

since receiving this news I have been unable to attend vital protests

Landon Sadler

I'm looking forward to your videos! No rush, though. I appreciate your honesty and commitment to quality :D

Sparky

Nyaa!

Léo Benoît-C.

I don't see the Tangents as a service I subscribe for on Patreon, but really as a token of gratitude from Contrapoints, whose Art and Research I benefit a lot from (so I started paying for it!). That money is my token of gratitude to Her for all the help she provided me, with her deep understanding of the world we live in and the world in our heads. I'm sad that I won't be able to share that gratitude with a one-time December donation on Patreon :P Actually, I would have trusted her anti-entitled judgement 100% in passing that money on to some organisation protecting LGBTQ2+ rights in the US (or other urgent matter... your country is messy :3 ). Coming from Canada and seeing how the US is going, I can only wish more money were in the hands of people like Contrapoints, for most of it goes to shallow people we don't want to hear that much from anyway... so I would have loved to know that some of it go to a Great person we will never understand enough from :) Stay Gold, Contrapoints! (Sorry for the prose, canadian frenchie englishing with difficulty here :P)

Léo Benoît-C.

P.S. Suck it CP, you regal Witch! (conveyed lovingly alongside with only but my blessings to You, of course ;) ) You're not gonna win that one : I just doubled my subscription. I'll share that December money even if I have to stuff it in your Rachmaninoffesque pianistically-exquisite preciously-delicate ink-stained history-rich woman's hands myself in January.

Diana.H.

I don't like Tangents to be honest. I can see their value and why people enjoy them but the topics are often deep and heavy and without the fun of the well-written jokes I find the tangents a bit hard to watch for me. All that to say, I didn't decide to be a Patreon for extra content. I decided to do it because it helps a creator I like and their crew. So you take your time. I sent money to L.Ellis for like a year when she went full silent. A few weeks or even months is completely fine. Take care !

Chris Fox

Dear lord! Please take my money! Please take the time you need to make content you love. $5 a month till the end of time would not cover the positive impact I have already experienced from your content. ...Ok, fine... 2 can play at this game. Time to up my tier of support. Who is with me? All hail Points!

Robert

happy holidays <3

Anne Berry

Love your tangents, love main channel videos. Happy to wait for both! Appreciate you pausing around the holidays! Every extra dollar counts this time of year 🫨

Léo Benoît-C.

Yaassssss! Even if one is just able to double it for only one month, let's show her in January what we mean when we say that we would support her to hell and back!

Chris Fox

Full Co-conspirator. It is so easy to fall to the lie that I can't make a difference. Points does, what's my excuse? Dare to be your best self.

Chris Fox

Time to break out the ostrocons. See ya in a decade

Julio Casar fernandez

More than happy to still pay but pretty nice of you to do so I really appreciate you and your work ♥️

Conor Mcvarnock

Noillag Shona Duit a chara / Happy Festivus Natalie.

ProfessorWham

I'm happy to pay--but also appreciate that you're thinking of us.

Samuel Victor

I love the tangents almost as much as the main channel videos. But there is never any pressure to stick to a schedule and as far as I'm concerned you don't "owe" anything. Just make what you can when you can and I'll happily consume when ready.

Amber

I'm just supporting you no matter what you do. Your dissection of hot button topics is the most well thought out, well researched, and by far most entertaining that I've ever seen, and we all know that takes time. Don't sweat it too much Natalie, we support you and your endeavors.

H.M.BRACKEN

you taking care of yourself and modelling healthy boundaries is the best content.

Noah Rouse

While I too agree that you can have all my money, I appreciate this. Just shows your integrity and commitment ❤️

Ygrec32

I learned through an offhand comment on an unrelated stream that Natalie had been creating content within a closed community model and was thrilled to sign up for it. I'm thrilled to have so many videos to catch up on now. What a lovely holiday surprise!

Erk

I didn't even notice you hadn't taken my money. This is all, like, honourable and shit, but god dammit natalie you deserve my hard $3 CAD for the tangent backlog. I guess the only solution is for you to put out a giant, perfectionist-crafted main channel video. Or let yourself half ass something for once in your life, woman.

Samuel Victor

The members' comments section seems to have been removed? I know barely anyone was checking or posting there anyway but I hope that it wasn't disabled because someone was trolling or posting in bad faith there. I thought (perhaps naïvely) that having the paywall barrier would mean that Patreon is somewhat of a safe space where comments and messages to a creator are only likely to be from supporters. Hopefully Natalie is just streamlining for her own mental health of having one less place to check/moderate (which I fully support!) rather than there being an "inciting incident" which I missed.

Graoker

The Alienation. That sounds like a nice title for a video 😬😜😽

jim davies

Thanks for being upstanding & then some! :D

DannyC

Glad to hear you've made enough money this year and will be fine!

Savannah Montgomery

1. take my money all the time anytime. 2. i love your main channel vids and your tangents. 2a. tangents feel like a special, slightly more parasocially intimate treat lol

terrestrial trash

this. this is the reason you're our breadmom. being completely honest and upfront about your principles? it's extremely admirable!! keep fightning the good fight, mom!

terrestrial trash

right? as a fellow writer, i can vouch for the fact that this obsessive kind of perfectionism is actually counterproductive. i'm not saying that caring about the quality of your art is dumb - obviously not - but the need for everything to be 'perfect' can actually cause you to get stuck in this repetetive correction process, that ultimately makes the quality of your work worse, since you end up correcting things that don't actually *need* to be corrected. but then again, who am I - a mere peasant! - to argue with our breadmom on 'how' to write good video essays, that would be absurd.

terrestrial trash

this^^^ this is exactly why Natalie is our collective breadmother. a woman of integrity, who also happens to be whip smart, a comedic genius and simply really gorgeous. what a beautiful human she is

Sam Angarita

Happy Holidays! thank you for doing what you do

Nathaniel Trent

I am absolutely frothing at the mouth in anticipation for the next contrapoints post we get

Jules

Happy Holidays! Take good care of yourself and please - take it easy!!! ❤️ We love ya

Ferocious Fairy

Thank you so much for your thoughtful decision and explanation! I appreciate any work that you put out and can patiently wait for whenever you're ready! I checked in because I noticed I hadn't been billed and I'm just relieved that I hadn't been dropped from your membership and I'm sincerely grateful you're not increasing the price for the lowest tier. Thank you so much for keeping it really affordable! I lost my job and cancelled all my other Patreon subs but you're still worth my money for the value of high quality entertainment and thought provoking videos. I wish you happy holidays and hope you take time to rest and relax! There's no pressure or rush from me to finish your projects! I'm hanging in here. ❤

Cookie

Natalie thank you for the content you have shared with us including the moments you choose to be vulnerable/transparent about your own experiences and life. It has made the difference for me! Glad you charge for Patreon content because this is some quality sh**! Always put so many ppl on you that end up going through your entire catalog on YouTube (and I know cause we have whole ass conversations and inside jokes about your content *cue GAL PALS 👯‍♀️*) and I forget that some of the coolest things are exclusively on Patreon! It really makes me weirdly and parasocially proud of you and your work and I feel lucky to have access to more contrapoints this year, your content made so many excruciating moments and difficult times sooo bearable, if not full on enjoyable, hopeful, encouraging. Thank you thank you thank you gorg!! 💗

Ross Parker

Have you ever thought of having a discussion with someone else on your channel? I've got a bit of a parasocial crush on Louise Perry. That might be an interesting encounter.

highclass_lady

If you're celebrating, Happy Holidays Natalie! 🎁🎄❄️ And either way, wishing you a wonderful time with people who bring you joy & laughter! ❤️

vaguelydogmatic

new contrapoints video…save me.. new contrapoints video save me new contrapoints video

Anthony B

> which I'd better lol We'd be here for you in a year. Don't step on that parenthetical guilt landmine you left for yourself.