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Cult Season rumbles on as Chris and Matt expand their minds in an attempt to absorb the cosmic insights of spiritual influencer and alleged cult leader Teal Swan (born Mary Teal Bosworth, 1984). Our intrepid hosts explore her recent appearance on the Just Tap In podcast with Emilio “starchild” Ortiz — a beanie-wearing vessel of pure credulity, lobbing softball metaphysical questions gently into the astral winds.The topic covered is ostensibly “Major 2026 Predictions” but this is really just an entry point for discussion of the ancient origins of AI, multiversal astral contract negotiations, and, of course, the urgent need to discuss masculinity before we spiritually implode.

You will learn insights, such as: how AI will eliminate ageing, guide us to SOURCE, amplify our shadow, and corrupt and deceive us ... all at once. Aliens and other cosmic beings are deeply concerned with and also not really all that bothered with humanity. Also, pop stars are apparently set to receive divine instructions to stabilise the collective psyche in 2026. And how we are all trapped in a planetary pressure cooker that will run at least until 2030. Teal is trying not to scare us, but it doesn’t look great (though it might also be great and lead to utopia).

Expect astral board meetings, sensemaking redefinitions of “power” and “love”, warnings about the painful sacrifices required to join Teal’s “conscious community”, and some distinctly uncomfortable talk about opening gates and reframing mother–son dynamics. As ever, Matt and Chris attempt to decode the elevated vagueness, semantic gliding, and cosmic scaling of very earthly anxieties.All hail SOURCE!

Links

Decoding Content

Just Tap In Podcast #260: "Teal Swan – Why 2026 Is a Psychological & Relational Tipping Point for Humanity"

Broader Coverage of Teal Swan

The Gateway (Gizmodo Podcast, 2018) - Six-part investigative series by Jennings Brown

The Deep End (Freeform/Hulu, 2022) - Four-part docuseries by Jon Kasbe

Mormon Stories #1607: Growing Up with Teal Swan - Diana Hansen Ribera - Interview with Teal's childhood best friend

Mormon Stories #1328-1331: Leaving Mormonism to Join Teal Swan's Cult - Jared Dobson

BBC- Teal Swan: The woman encouraging her followers to visualise death

Scam Goddess: The Culty Con of Teal Swan w/ Sarah Marshall

Comments

Nancy Hale

I kept laughing whenever Chris called Emilio “star child” or “dude bro” or “beanie guy.”

Ryan Booker

It reminds me of a brief I heard a muso friend of mine give a designer about an album art design. “It needs to be clean but messy, and geometric but freeform, but tense yet relaxed. Etc etc.

Not Insane

If you're against the Source you would then be a Sink, wouldn't you? But isn't every entity receiving from the Source a Sink? I dunno, something just doesn't quite make sense here.

Mike

Dang. Was hoping this would be a video one also.

Paul Ditta

Boys, you weren’t wrong. This was an absolute banger. And one of the best/worst of the cult series. I’m still reeling. And I feel soiled and wrong that some deep, knuckle dragging part of my soul, a part I am NOT proud of, did whisper up from the depths… “Yeah…but she is quite hot.” NO! NO! BACK INTO THE DEPTHS WITH YOU!

Alex H

The cult season tune is so so so good

Rich F

Teal says men's emotions have been all screwed up from the late 1800s and on into the industrial revolution. Which started around mid 1700s. (I also noticed a couple of other things she said which were arguably open to question)

Hereforcranks

As a nascent decoder I remember being dumbfounded by the appeal of gurus like this. Gurus like Teal got me into this whole world. Basic recognition of equivocation gets you started with skepticism. Then ya build your decoding chops from there. Thanks Teal for being sooooo bad at guruing.

Dean

My man Emilio isn't exactly Grizzly Adams is he.

Saksaas

If you switch out the Source with the Force this would be a good episode of Star Wars

kurdelis

I would like to rephrase Emilos favorite teaching - when it is the stupidest, it matters the most.

Joe Euro

Can we make Matt's cancellation segment a regular item? I love it

Barn

Linda Sears

One thing that confused me upon listening to the interview was how AI could be ancient yet also, in her words, a baby. I asked my twin, and she solved the mystery for me. AI is like the primal egg thing from the Monkey Magic tv series that gets awakened by forces of nature, and then Monkey emerges. He is magical, very powerful, kind of mischievous, and needs the Buddhist monk to keep him in check, just like AI as described by Teal. If you are in need of a refresher: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J-SUoHmpRdM

Duncan

Toupee, or not toupee, that is the question that will finally be answered by the Ken Wilbur episode.

Barn

Linda Sears

When Teal was talking about the Industrial Revolution causing men to disconnect from their emotions because they went off to work while the women stayed home, she implied that women did not go to work, which simply was not true for many working class women. They worked outside the home as domestics, in mills, and in factories. She seemed to be referring to bourgeoise women who were seen as the pure “protectors of the hearth” while their business men husbands went to work where they encountered the grubby working class people and engaged in the rough and tumble of making money.

Níall

I zone out Everytime she starts talking. I just find her nonsense so uninteresting

Aðalbjörg Aðalbjörnsdóttir

Honestly part of why I joined the patreon was to hear Chris and Matt try and pronounce my name. They did a terrible job but I appreciated the effort😃

Chris Clark

“Is it masculine to cut yourself off from information??? HELL NO!” This is jaw dropping stuff.

COLOR MENTOR

Oh yeah this is Ken Wilber territory

Nina Davies

I think everyone on this Patreon should be forced to do field work by attending at least one New Age festival. If you are in any doubt, it is this but with smells. Being able to talk complete crap = increased status. But luckily much profit can be made from people talking crap in your bedouin style cafe.

Linda Sears

When things are at their hardest, that is when you realize the situation is sucky and to get the f***k out of there. In all seriousness, though, hearing Chris talk about how that kind of language is used to guilt people into staying in the cult is pretty sad. Because most people don’t want to feel like quitters.

Linda Sears

On the topic of feeling like one needs to do self-work, I think that for some people it is a narcissistic desire to optimize and spend time on taking care of the self. I’m guessing are other people, who are drawn into this space because they feel fundamentally broken or wrong. They may desperately want to be “fixed” by people like Teal. Those are the people who seem the most vulnerable because they think they have no worth, and only a Teal Swan can give it to them.

Jen

Sooooo such a thing as too smoky!!! Taste like medicine after a point.

Amy S

You guys made me laugh so much throughout this episode

Joe Euro

This episode is even better if you switch the spelling over to sauce. All hail SAUCE!

Joseph Sullivan

One hour and 39 minutes in when Teal had a brain fart when asked anything about the “feminine-masculine dance” and I don’t think I can listen anymore (I’m trying to soldier on). Truly an insufferable guru!

Ben Warner

Was the cult season song performed and written by humans? Just asking, and hoping that it was not made by AI

Monica B.

I've known about her for a while (um, not as a fan) and was very excited for this. It did not disappoint! Unexpectedly, I found her very occasional little giggles to be the most terrifying thing about her *shudder*

Flex Tape

Move over mattrix, make way for McDrop

George

So often the gurus are people driven by delusions of genius. Chris Langan the prime example. But this was so painfully someone larping as intelligent but having almost no insight whatsoever. The point where she can't even offer some made-up bullshit about what masculine and feminine need is so telling. Just give the poor bloke something. Anything. You literally cannot miss.

Foggers

"Wallowing in custard". Cancelling plans for tonight.

pr

Matt you are dead wrong, whisky is made very well by Australians. Sullivans Cove, Lark etc. Your wealth of ignorance on this topic is matched only by your confidence in stating it. Then again, you are a Queenslander….

Jeff Faulkner

The Donnie Darko reference was sublime. Long live Sparkle Motion.

Allan Malcolm McPherson

I think Chris needs to admit that his critique of Swan's assertion of a split between home and work was entirely inspired by reading Cod.

Joan Taylor

I find her voice unappealing. She lacks warmth. I don’t understand what would attract followers. Starboy overdoes it with his voice; so understanding! What a phony! They deserve to be trapped in a community of two. Aggressively.

DJM

It strikes me that she might be doing something like “cold reading,” a psychic/mentalist technique of making vague statements framed as predictions and tailoring them to what the audience says/does in response. It’s like predicting a horse race after it’s over but seeming to make predictions the whole way through. Many psychics do this.

Elissa

Personally, the giggling : ‘f@&k u Lex’ at the very end was worth my Patreon bill

Lucyna

OK, I listened to hours of this and I leave confused whether I’m supposed to respect men, or whether they’re idiots for expecting me to respect them.

zaphods_revenge

Not Teal Swan saying “the greater good.” In related news: i need to watch Hot Fuzz again.

Some who call me Tim

With apologies to “Mr. Ed”, and well, everyone in this manifestation: A Source is a Source, of course of course And no one can talk to a Source of course That is of course unless the Source is the famous Guru Swan

Gavin Bewick

I can't get over the fact that she's called Teal Swan. I understand that she had to choose a hippy name, but why choose Swan as a surname when you're already named after a duck?

Andreas Singer

Talking about AI, Teal Swan and her sensemaking friends really sound like an early GPT model: It strings together words which sound nice in sequence but they mean nothing

Portimex

This was a step too far, gentlemen. This is an April 1 podcast.

Vivian

I just listened to this episode and realized I was part of Teal’s cult. It makes me sad because my parents said they wouldn’t pay to deprogram me after my second cult.

DudeNah

At least she’s citing source material