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Hey all,

Just wanted to check in and give you a progress update. I've been working on a main channel video basically since "Twilight" was released in March of last year. My original target upload date was the US election in November. The result of that election threw off my groove severely, as we've discussed (though it's just as well because the election has affected the framing of the video). I moved the deadline to December 31-ish. But the project has continued to expand and is now essentially equal to "Twilight" in length and scope. I think this is creatively justified. But I am only now moving into the later stages of production. So, realistically, this will be a February video.

I've decided not to pause the Patreon, because I'm not on vacation. In fact I basically have no life until the video is up. No one's making me do this, it's my choice. But I wanted to be clear about what you can expect and when. If you want to unsubscribe and then resubscribe in February when the video is up, I understand completely and take no offense. If you trust the process and want to pay me to work regardless of the deadline, I of course am very grateful for that too.

Thanks for all your support and patience—and for those in the US, hang in there this week.

-Natalie

Comments

Jacobinsky

Take all the time you need. We’ll be here ❤️

India

Natalie anything you upload will restore peace to the village, do what you gotta do

Gustav Thor

Ok. But when is the next Morrowind stream!

Jellybean

If it's as good as the twilight video it will have been worth the wait

Ben G

can’t wait!

Aaron Thiel

Thanks for the update excited to see it!!

amesville

So happy to hear from you! These darn parasocial relationships, lol.

Sasha

quality over quantity, can’t wait for the video <33

Kylie Prestridge

I'm happy to wait. I think we'll all need something to cheer us up by February. Take your time. It'll be worth the wait.

Matt

I subscribe to you to support your main work, not to expect constant bonus content. I want to support you so you feel free to create 🙂

Arica Schuett

Anyone in Atlanta down for a watch party?

Mariana Farias

Very excited to watch it! Take all the time you need, we will be here :)

d52k

looking forward to it no matter when it is!!

Nik Johnson

Natalie, Take all the time you need. We will always be in your corner girl❤️

Alex Obery

I trust the process Natalie. If I disappear from patreon it's because I recently got replaced at work. Excited for your next video regardless of when it comes out.

Paola Nicoll Alzuru Castillo

Gurl, I see you and I feel you. Actually I've just sent an email to my thesis assessor with a heads up just like this one. Keep up with the good work, we got this!

parasocialant

Please take your time!! Thank you for working so hard--but I hope you'll still let yourself have life outside the video before it's released!

Cerise El-Meligi

Of course I'll stay subscribed. What you do means very much to me

Adam Lees

I am excited for any and all new content from you, but please don’t pressure yourself too much 😅

Rebecca

Worth the wait! Take care 💕

Luigi Cree

Gnosiological edging.

Kharina Sterner

The research and production side is when you are genuinely working, so this is wholly justified. You always deliver, so I am not one bit worried.

CrystalJade

Hang in there too! I’m excited for another epic main channel video so will def remain subscribed to show support in this way as well as with my thoughts to everyone in the US generally and in LA. ❤️ I rewatched twilight the other day and I think it’s my favourite, but my mind is open to that being changed!

Nel

I can’t wait for the video:) Take your time!

Kristy Mannell

Don’t worry, we get it! Keep up the good work X

Levan Kiknadze

Take all the time that you need! One should never rush a masterpiece. I will be here 💜

Nat Molyneaux

You do you, and we will always be here ❤️

James Lacey

So pumped for the new video! I'm always happy to keep supporting - things are finished when they're finished, and you've gotta pay rent in the meantime lol

Alex Curry

omg my birthday is in February what a pleasant gift thank you mother

Alexa barrett

I'm really glad you aren't pausing payments. Take the time you need. And thinking of all of you in the USA from the UK.

Patryk Zep

take the money girl!! waiting patiently 💜

Josh Reyes

Like the old man in Toy Story 2 said, you can't rush art!

Ibraheem

Take your time baby

Silsool

In my country, pay includes vacation anyway, so you're good either way in my book :)

Ann C

Thank you for the update! I've been checking here almost daily since I usually miss the email notification that the video is up. I'm looking forward to the video whenever it's available. I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Take care, Natalie.

J

Take your time! the extra time is always reflected in the quality. ☺️☺️

deeb

Hell yes, I’m in for the long haul. Excited to see the great work I know is coming, however long it requires. Xox.

Leo Kyle

Oh nice how exciting! Can't wait to see it

Lara

Take all the time you need for your process, and also take good care of yourself! ❤️

r053 p3t4l

so excited for the new video, and absolutely love the tangents we've been getting 💜💜💜

Bored Lacanian

Thanks for letting us know! I trust the process 🙏

Ibraheem Saoud

I would wanna say that we support you fully knowing this. We wanna give you the creative space and time to produce things to your liking and level. We trust you and wish you the best

Hannah Moran

Take as much time as you need- your process is your process, and your care and attention to detail is evident in every video you upload. We’re all fine ❤️

Casey Lowell

Thank you for the update! Definitely not going to unsubscribe. Completely understand and relate to being thrown off by the election, because that's how I felt (and still feel) too.

Duncan

Take your time for sure! And definitely don’t pause payments.

Maria van Agthoven

I'm very much looking forward to the video! Godspeed with getting it done!

Tacco

Take care and all the time you need Gut Ding will Weile haben ( good things take time)

Meev

Please take all the time you and the work need! ❤️

Albertyna Varga

We all have so much respect for your work <3 Rome wasn't build in a day, take as much time as you need

Jax Monty

I gladly give my money for this. Thanks for the transparency and amazing work. ❤️

Jobu Tupaki

i admire your well-justified confidence that you deserve fair compensation for your amazing work. and i admire your charitable acceptance of those that cannot afford to pay. to me, you are truly among the bodhisattvas desperately needed to soothe and guide us through this Kali Yuga. Satan speed you, Mother Natalie 🙇🏻🙇🏻🙇🏻

Abbi

We will subscribe to support you the way your videos support us months and years after we’ve first viewed them. Wishing you love and strength this week ❤️

Jessica Cheeri

Election's got us all rattled a bit, I think. Do take care

Gigi M

Take all the time you need ❤️ I can listen to any of your videos on loop for months and still find smthg to learn/enjoy. That being said I am of course cancelling everything the day the new video comes out and forcing my housemates to see through all 5 hours of it ❤️❤️

Chris James

Absolutely, please do NOT stop the payments - this work is going into the video and all

Dood

I'm afraid I'll keep throwing away my euros in your direction.

Kai Lewen

I just woke up and had forgotten for a second what this week was. Hahahaha silly me ._.

Gaia Moisan

You may have my 2 dollars (ur welcome i know) … make something sick … i am very excited to watch

Gaia Moisan

Thank you for the update!

Shunti Akku

Take your time gorg. We trust the process. And thank you for the transparency.

Yotam Shabtay

So excited!! Thank you and take your time please

BaFi

Yay! thank you for the message, very excited about the upcomig video! take the time you need. ❤️

Tanya Tsui

Take your time. I already constantly feel like I’m not paying enough for your work, which is of such high quality, so I’m more than happy to continue my subscription. Looking forward to the video!

Charlotte

Thanks for the update! Loved the last tangent!

Thrish Ogden

I of course will support you every step of the way, mother

Evelynn

2nd Christmas in February 😍

highclass_lady

Girl I'm staying subscribed, I appreciate your integrity, transparency, & consideration for your supporters, & also, I'm choosing to continue to support you! My mom always said that "good things come to those who wait," & while I'm not sure how accurately that applies to every situation as an adult, I think your main channel videos are well worth the wait. We know you're human, & we believe in & support you, exactly as you are! Especially when you're in the midst of such a workload, & especially in times like these, please still try to set some time aside for yourself & allow moments to decompress & have fun & quality time with wonderful people who make your life better! You've got this Natalie!

Malle00

I subscribe to support you. You couldn't be doing all the great content you make available for free if people like us didn't exist. It is mind boggling to me that I can access all this for a few bucks. I also pay for all the tangents you put out. These aren't going anywhere. I can just rewatch them. Please don't feel the need to appease us during your crunch times. We understand!

AJ

Thanks for the update Natalie! Can't wait to see what you're cooking up for us. I am hyped for a another Twilight style dissertation. Definitely not going anywhere! Stay warm this winter!

SuperMaria

My job is very solitary. Rn I am handling a complex project that I've been working on since September and will likely take a couple more months to complete. People who are not involved in it underestimate the complexity and keep asking me for a completion date, why it's taking so long etc. Working alone, it's very easy to gaslight yourself into thinking their understanding of the project reflects the actual complexity and you are simply the worst™. It takes a toll. But I am actually fine, and so are you. Thank you for reminding me and thank you for all the great work you've put out over the years. Big respect

Tito Mercado

so you just gone bring me a birthday video on my birthday month to my birthday party on my birthday with a birthday gift video? cheers 🥂🎉

Nick Desrosiers

Hey fun fact, people can be paid during vacation. Taking time off and not worrying about income is actually a big part of being able to work properly.

Kathryn Backman

Thank you for the update! I'm happy to contribute continuously as I believe it's important to be paid for time off as well. It's beautiful that you're so mindful, understanding, and flexible with your audience. Much love!

Madison

Take my money, queen! People deserve to get paid as they work, even if their deadline gets postponed.

Monica Cruz

Thank you Natalie! Looking forward to your new creation! I'm happy to hear you are okay💜💚💛

Jenavive!

Upping my subscription to mark this week. Take some breaks and shit girl. Fill your cup. Basically having no life while working is totally not worth it. Good luck and take good care of you. Excited to watch!

Mo Dirt

So excited!! Take all the time you need 💖💖💖💖💖

SiberianHussy

Take the time to make the video you want to make, and take some breaks as well, we all need rest, especially right now. US folks, hang in there.

mistine

🙌🏼

Sara Wall

I think it’s safe to say that many of us will continue to support your creative endeavors, no matter how long they take❤️

frogsmore

Goodness me Natalie; to be one of your patrons is my privilege, and creativity such as yours has its own time.

highclass_lady

I can totally empathize with not feeling like you can truly relax / not being able to properly enjoy a true vacation when you still have an ongoing high-effort project you want to have definitively finished & behind you. That said, I agree! I do hope that Natalie does take some paid vacation time to truly relax & unwind after she feels free of working on this video! That's going to feel so good! 🌷 Imagine a late spring or summer in Europe to see tulip season in Holland, 🪻 or the lavender fields in France, 🍊 or the orange blossoms, summer festivals, Lake Como, & the Amalfi Coast in Italy! ⛲️🌾 And I hope she takes some other days off & time to take breaks in the midst of all this too!

Aristana Scourtas

Wow a video that compares to Twilight?? Sign me the fuck up, I’m so excited.

Aristana Scourtas

Also I am glad you are not pausing payments — you’re working hard, and work deserves compensation!

shannon

take your time and my money! thanks for the update! we appreciate you.

Dot

I’m a working artist who often relies on funding that trusts the process, like that is just something we need to be able to make cool stuff without adding unnecessary suffering to our lives 🤷🏻‍♀️ also an anti-capitalist so I think everyone should just have sufficient income/needs met regardless of what they publicly produce 🤷🏻‍♀️ do your thing girl I’m just happy to be here

Jason

Hey Nat, support you 100%! It seems like the monthly tangent model isn’t working out with how you work, maybe like a tangent every 2/3 months would work better for you. Either way, I’m here to support as much as I am able.

Ayse Emre

take your time girl, excited to see the result! <3

Remington

We trust the process. Keep doing your thing (and take breaks!). We’ll be here through it all :)

Sara

I appreciate the update. I subscribed to give you the time and means to make the amazing and informative video. Honestly, I expected this to say that you had moved out of the country.

Skylier Rain

Hey Nat I think I speak for 95% of subs when I say this is exactly why we support you on Patreon. Because we recognize that the incredible videos you create require such a massive volume of work that...ya there are gonna be months when you upload nothing because you are working on said project. That the point of us supporting you this way, so you don't have to worry about the profitability of your video model and just focus on producing the best quality

infinitetwizzlers

Go on and cook girl :) I’m psyched for the vid. Xo

Hellvetika

Contrapoints: New Moon

demlet

It's worth it!

CoffeePoints

super heccin excited for Twilight 2.0

Northy

Much love from Ireland ❤️

amesville

Bingo. It’s harkening back to the historical patron model—art takes time, and artists require food.

Mo K

You hang in there too. ❤️ And thank you for the update. Looking forward to your next project.

peroxxide

Take your time, rome wasn't burned in a day (or something like that). If there were a patreon we could join that never got paused I think most of us would be on that one instead. We're here because we want to support you! Thank you for letting us be part of your community and contribute to your survival in some small way. <3

Sydney Smith

It’s winter. We weren’t meant to bloom in these months. The more I push myself to creative and professional productivity, the more my body tells me to slow down. I hope you’ve been able to take a real break. We’ll be here whenever you post.

Blacksheep

Natalie, I think most of us are glad to pay you even when you take time off. I grew up poor in a family of manual laborers who never got paid on days off and ended up working in a white collar office world (fundraising for students) where they pay us when sick or on vacation. I used to feel guilty about it also, but eventually realized they pay for this time because they actually value me as a person and my work. So please realize what you contribute to the world is valuable enough to receive payment even if you take a day or a month off.

flwrsevrywhr

Was just thinking of you and hoping you’re OK. Excited for this upcoming video and can’t wait to hear from you.

Marco

Thank you for the update! I trust the process! 💓

breausephina

I'm just a commendable non-freeloader looking forward to whatever comes out next, you do you girl

Zyzi

Gurl • • • I think most of us whole-heartedly understand your work takes an unholy amount of effort, energy, and time, but we're here regardless. Shut up and take our money. 💚💸💚💸🫶 (I meant I'm not unsubscribing or whatever. I love your work and really appreciate what you do, and it means a lot)

a. j. archer

honestly, i hope most of us do understand how much work goes into a contrapoints video. if some people in the general audience (or even on here) are bitchy to you about how infrequently you upload to the main channel, that really sucks, and i will certainly never be one of them, because taking about a year to produce each highly-researched, incredibly thoughtful, one-woman feature-length film with multiple sets and costume changes seems about right to me. and i've always disagreed with the idea that you should outsource any part of the process just to speed up the release timeline, because i do feel your singular control shows in the final product, and it makes your videos really, really special. so i'm always happy to wait and pay my $2/mo for access to the back catalogue on patreon while you're doing the behind-the-scenes stuff. artwork is hard work!

susan tiss

Keep working! I am happy to wait for the quality content. 💜

Ella Bar

We love you! I am always happy to be patient and wait for you to be happy with what you upload ❤️🌟

RarelyOnline

No rush! Super stoked about this!!

abhassl

Personally, I never wanted you to pause the Patreon in the first place regardless of your output. But I understand and respect your reasons for doing so. Sure does make me glad I work a traditional 9-5 where I don't have to think about whether or not I should take my paycheck.

KeramThrall

Oh good, you're not stopping us from sending you our literal support this time 🤭🫵. Time does not erode the wonder and joy of listening to your meticulously threaded thoughts. Looking forward to the nextvideo, Nat!

low level rat

So looking forward to it, bet it's gonna be phenomenal 💖

Allan Corona

We admire, respect, and trust your process UwU ❤️❤️❤️

Delfina

Always apologizing! No más, girly! We trust the process and love your work. And we always have the option to leave as we please. We wouldn't be here if we didn't want to!

Lumiel

You hang in there, as well. Take care of yourself!

Max Oakland

Glad you aren’t pausing the Patreon. I really don’t think that’s necessary. I know you’re working hard and I know you’ll make a video that’s worth the wait. You always do

Max Oakland

I agree. I really don't feel any need for an apology. I'm also glad she's not pausing the patreon

Chrissy

We all said: Bitch, take my money and don’t pause patreon ever again

highclass_lady

Agreed! & although I would not consider it in any way a compromise of Natalie's integrity & commitment if she does decide that outsourcing parts of the work on the video was what was right for her, (she already has hired people to do digital special effects in the past for example) I fully trust & support Natalie's autonomy & her process as she chooses what works for her in video making! The world is full of soulless empty corporate content-mill sludge. Most people expect the works of a great author to be attributed within reason mostly to them. I'm also not sure that collaborating always necessarily results in a project taking less time, actually getting more people involved results in quite the opposite sometimes, even if getting help reduces the workload per person. Books & YouTube videos are different mediums, but I think Natalie puts just as much work into her scripts as a book or dissertation (& different types of work go into a video that wouldn't necessarily be required of most books)! I don't think many people expect their favorite author to have someone else co-write or finish the next book for them or get a different editor just so they can have a version of it sooner. Even if not everyone can immediately realistically understand how much work goes into a ContraPoints video especially if they haven't created a video essay or something similar themselves, I think we can all see & feel that these videos were made with a lot of passion, care, authenticity, genuine sincerity, thought & effort!

Maria Pirson

rice, farmer, monk. you totally deserve paid vacations btw

Bruno Sauvagnat

I'm paying the Patreon regardless. Keep up the good work, I am looking forward to see that video when it's ready.

Zachary Kreft

Totally get it. Your work is great because you put this kind of work into it. Looking forward to seeing it. No rush.

Gothic Crow

I don't pay you to work, that thought makes me shudder. I appreciate the person you are and what you do and support you no matter what you see fit.

Johnny DeMartino

So excited to get to see a project you’ve put so much time and care into! You know we are happy to support you

Darren DM

My meagre sub is for both the product and the process. So, umm, proceed.

Adventuress

Glad to keep supporting - you do what you need to do. It would be...hypocritical? to demand that you somehow do even more under pressure when so many of us are struggling.

Katie

I’m excited for the upcoming video!

Alisha

Take my money and take your time!! Looking forward to the finished work! ✨️

Jenny Johnson

Paying you coins to make your brilliant work is my privilege 🖤

Garrett Barton

Take the time you need to deliver a product you can be proud of. I'll be here for it whenever it is ready :)

slightlyedi

Always happy to support regardless of deadlines

Aderyn Albarelli

Hi there! I'm glad you're excited about your work! And I'm looking forward to it. Oh yea, I gotta update the card that patreon charges to 😅 I'm hanging in, this week! Recently, overtime 's been good enough to cover the basics and even have a savings account! That may dry up again, once the presses go back to running 40 packs 😞

Cedric Tonye Djon

Thank you so much for your work! I fully trust your process. Please don't be so hard on yourself, you're doing great! :)

Sean Callahan

Take your time Queen! I’m supporting you full stop regardless. In this time, we need to support like minded individuals more than ever

Kayla Russell

Take your time, and please try to absolve yourself of pressure to finish within a certain time. Let the artistic process flow and make sure you take breaks and take care of yourself. You have my support no matter what

Eric Phillips

Sounds like this is going to be a 🔥 hot 🔥 take, lol. I'm excited! On a side note, many of us are re-framing existence as we know it, so it's no surprise that the video needed a little added contextualization as well 😜. Can't wait to see your latest commentary.

Jesse DeStasio

I supports artists and want them to work on their own schedule, not one dictated by patreon billing cycles or some algorithm.

Aderyn Albarelli

Okay, *most basics I hope Natalie and chat are doing okay

Mindy Woodall

I trust your process more than anyone else’s on earth

Ty P

Less talk, more work! :)

Michelle Appleton

I trust you to cook more than anyone else on this planet

Elizabeth Garvey

This is completely understandable, please take the time you need. Since the election things have felt increasingly bleak for me, and I can’t imagine needing to be creative in this time. I’ve been binging your past videos recently, which have been so helpful and in a way comforting (even some of the darker subject matter ) With the large part of the US voting in a way that would hurt alot of people I care about, it’s inspiring to see you still creating and still making your voice heard, despite the chaos. Looking forward to your video’s release ❤️ please take care, dear.

TheGirlFromTheFourthPlanet

No way I'm unsubscribing. Your videos have a lot of work, documentation, production and care, and that takes time. This is not about you making videos like pancakes. This is about you making philosophy, analysis and thought, and that takes time. So take your time.

Leighton Pierce

Looking forward but no rush. I’m afraid we will all need it even more in February—or March— or April — or . . .

Danielle Corsetto

I am absolutely here to contribute to you taking all the time you need to exist and create. (I know where you're coming from - my patrons are keeping me afloat while I take like 7 years to make a graphic novel. I get how easy it is to feel guilty about it!) We trust you, good luck during these crunch weeks!!

Leighton Pierce

Absolutely. Never thought of this as “fee for service.” It’s support for a creator I admire and want to support. Once a year is AOK for me. Once every two? Also ok

aamini

Just happy you didn't pause the patreon again.

Caitlyn Mills

I’m excited for one video a year bc of the production value. I want to support no matter what

Jasper Rose

As much as I love the tangents, I'm a patron because I want well-researched, high value, longform content like yours to exist. That, and your work has already had a huge impact on my life and I want to return the favor. I think most of us have basically signed up to crowdfund whatever it is you want to make. I understand though, that you may need at least a little deadline pressure to motivate yourself to get it across the finish line, so: You'd better get it done by end of Feb or else! We're gonna be disappointed but ultimately understanding!! And that is a threat!

Alexander Kroese

Love you Natalie! Please don't worry about taking all the time you need! I'm happy to pay!

Robin Armstrong

Ah, take your time kid. It'll be great when it appears, the money is because we love you...

Jake

We support u!!

Jakob Guevara

we support you <3 keep up the work we appreciate and love it !!

deana bug

I work in the video industry as a freelancer. You get paid throughout pre-production, production, and post-production. If you're working full-time, you might even get PTO. Frankly, it would be falling on your own sword to pause your Patreon while you're working on something. No one's asking for this, and if they are, they are out-of-touch asshole. 🥰✨ I understand that if you have an audience you might want to be perceived as apologetic, humble and modest. It usually boils down to, "Sorry, I'm a human. Sorry, it's taking so long. Sorry." but you are far enough in your career to move past that Shame. You are lucky enough to have this comment section filled with "We love you, unconditionally, and hell we will keep throwing money at you while we're at it." Savor this, see this, and take it as a reminder that what you are doing is hard work. What people in this industry are doing is hard work. We both deserve to have food on our tables. Don't feed the belief that the "content NOW" economy needs more creators willing to do free labor. We have plenty of creatives who are already doing free labor with hopes of getting somewhere in this industry. A lot of them never do. Now shut up and take my $2.

Connor Ward

Honestly Natalie, I'm just happy to know how passionate and thoughtful you are about your work. Your dedication and creative process are truly inspiring, and knowing you're putting so much care into it makes me feel content and even more excited for what you have in store. Take all the time you need—your audience appreciates the effort and depth you bring to every project!

alexander roberts

No worries, there are plenty of insightful Ben Shapiro videos we get to watch while we wait for yours, so take your time x #centrism

Rachel Cook

Classy move-appreciate the honest communication. Absolutely support you 💜 i wish the rest of the world was this honest and direct

Calvin Maragnano

I’m going to unsubscribe until the video comes out, all due respect. I understand the monthly tangents become a whole project of their own and aren’t sustainable when you’re in this phase of production. Good luck with the home stretch!

Olek W.

You’re an island of nuance in a sea of slop I’m trusting the process 🫡

Lina7

Happy to support an intellectual and artist like you!

LGAR 2

we wait in joyful hope for Natalie

10 Ten 235 J

🫡 I subscribed because of the golden rule. I know how it is being an artist who makes ambitious work people enjoy, and I dream of being paid just for and during the trustworthy process.

Sondre Lyngholm

Keep the cash, you deserve it, and much more Natalie 💜

Julie

You do you. Stay healthy. Your videos are worth the wait and the update is appreciated. I receive far more value from you than the measly amount I can currently offer in support.

Navada Pletcher

Hell yeah! Would’ve stayed the last times you’ve paused also.

Zoë Collis

Thanks for the update! 💕

Max Murphy

Yay super excited! Be kind to yourself plz :-)

Rose Dombegh

Take your time . . . my soul will suffer but my homework will unfortunately get done. I can't wait for another 3-hour video essay to watch rather than reading the essays my profs actually assign lol. Thanks so much for existing!

Andrew May

Thanks, Natalie! Glad you're still at it and chipping away at another masterpiece. If I may speak for all us louts and layabouts, we are excited for, appreciate, and value your work, and we want you to follow the process that allows you to unfold your glory. We're members so that your needs can be met to free up your talents and capacities. I have been thinking back to a comment you made maybe X number of years ago about wanting to return to shorter videos with different (see: simplified) kinds of production complexity. Are you still entertaining that? Just curious how you're envisioning future projects now and what might be on the horizon!

ContraPoints

I do still want to do some shorter form content yes.

UponaWhim

💜🫂 we gotchu! You’re worth it!

Chloë Joan López

I sponsor you so you can do whatever it is you think needs doing, however you think it needs to be done. If there’s some tier I can subscribe to that means you never have to worry about pausing again, I would like that. Anyway a high-production feature a year is incredibly prolific already. You don’t need to Fassbinderize yourself.

Liam F

You basically make films, films I love, and films that I often watch multiple times over. The fact is, for the content you put out, I'm spending a whole lot more paying for a single movie ticket (side note; Nosferatu was really good) than what I do on your patreon between video posts. You're all good, you're content is absolutely worth it.

Boermund

Please dont worry about it. I love to support you so you can do your work in the way you think is best.

Irina Culic

Take your time. Thank you lots for your work. Stay sane and safe.

TimBob RN

You’re worth the wait !

Osmomosis

I became a patron because I respect and admire the time and effort you take to create the videos that you do. I'm here to support that. I'm not expecting output at certain intervals or anything. In fact, I hope that Patreon makes it possible for you NOT to grind yourself into paste for the sake of output.

Sergio Augusto

Thank you for the transparency! Looking forward to it!

Liz Samson

It takes as long as it takes - your content is awesome! Very happy to support. Take care - can’t imagine what it’s like in the US at the moment.

Lasha Bezhashvili

Mother has spoken! We’re up for even more enlightenment in February by the grace of Mother Points! Ok on a more serious note I’m really looking forward to it. What’s the video going to be about? 👀

X

I am happy to pay you to simply exist. So long as you are doing anything, you inspire me. Thanks for everything Natalie 🎊💜

Mary Borsellino

I can't speak for other subscribers but I don't subscribe with the expectation that you'll provide me with content for every billing cycle. I subscribe because I appreciate you as an artist and want to contribute to your ability to create art.

Angie B

Echoing the feeling, and thank you for the update! I'm so happy to be able to support for as long as it takes! Always worth it.

FailerBob

You still get my patreon money, don't worry. One day I'll get the reminder that your new video is online and then I know it was worth it.

Pierre Brown

Thanks for the update and transparency!! I trust your process and to be completely honest, I'm just glad to see someone is still living in the reality of this complete and utter nonsense. Seeing all of the random celeb and fashion brand endorsements/alignments with the new administration has made this timeline so much worse, even though I ought to know that the upper class is overwhelmingly obsessed with the side of what's popular and profitable, not necessarily what's morally right or sensible. I'm excited for the new video and anything you're bringing in the new year! (Also hoping to see you gaming more in the future once you're giving yourself a break from main channel!!)

Ravenqueen

Hi Nathalie, I hope you can always choose for yourself and your wellbeing. I gladly support your work, no problem that it takes time. I know it is worth it. But you matter the most, and i think that most people who follow you here feel the same ♥️🫀

Austen G

You’re good, I’m here for the tangents

Jessie Lees

Thanks for the update! All I care about is getting to see your amazing videos eventually and having an idea of when they're out. I've checked Patreon every day this month looking to see if there was an update 😂 now I know when to look forward to a new video! ❤️

Megan Lange

Will always stay to support! We need your incredible mind right now 🥲

Matias

❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

Matin

❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

Proctor Depper

Rock on. It’s cool. Glad for the update. I love your work, trust your hustle and good faith. Looking forward to your next installment!

Nicholas Coffin

Appreciate the update and looking forward to the video!

Dawn Farthing

parasocially love you much, Natalie!!!

mink

Damn. Right before I saw this post, I decided I’m not going to breathe until you release the video. Obviously I can’t hold my breath until February, so I’m going to die. I hope you can live with that.

Leonardo Corredor

The quality of your videos is so fantastic that even after multiple viewings there is still something valuable to get from. We're happy to keep supporting your excelent work Queen!

Parisa Havaeji

Please, don't ever ever pause. A lot of your subscribers subscribe to support your work, I don't care when you upload. When you pause I don't feel happy that I'm not spending a couple dollars, I feel upset that one of the creators I like most isn't having an income. Deadlines should be soft for creative work. I'd really prefer it if you leave it to me to decide if I want to unsubscribe or not, don't make the choice on our behalf.

JustSomeGuy

Im hyped, another banger from the Breadtube GOAT

JP

what?

Nora

Take your time! Not going anywhere. Glad to be able to contribute a little to your amazing creative projects.

Bando Fett

As someone working in research - I know what it feels like to work without having "output" to show at the end of it, and having no life until the project is finished. Take your time - most people supporting you do not follow the business logic of extracting every cent's worth of output, and they understand that creative processes are complicated. Please take time to pause and rest too <3

Gouthamatic

Hey Nat, Twilight has given me more to think about and I still rewatch it once a month at least, you are doing beautiful work and please take care of yourself. We love you nonetheless

Megalomaniac64

As long as the new video is titled something like "Delusions" I am way there

emflomo

Very excited!!

Loïc

Please continue to charge me. Thanks!

Hempa wing

happy to know you're working on something you care about and enjoy. that's what i'm on here to support! <3

S1lang

I just want to be forever immortalised in the credits that's all

Iris

Sending love your way Natalie <3 Excitedly anticipating the new video as well

Kylie

Literally couldn’t care less when you post. I will forever be here to support! Take your time ❤️

Ms Waif

Take all the time you need, we will be here.

Austin Zaff

If you made 1 video a year, and it cost $24, that would be worth it.

Emily Levine

We love you and I hope you're doing okay too! What a world we live in...

John

Natalie Wynn, Natalie Lynn collaboration at some point please :)

Fee Wallace

Happy to keep supporting you in this small way each month. Looking forward to the next video. Hope you can get some well deserved rest when the time comes x

Babybubbles

I want to hand you an awful 'hang in there' cat poster. I am a cis european chick who's not even sexual and the constant news surrounding the thing is even stressing me out and completely turning me into a veggie. I cannot imagine how it is as a prolific content creator transgender lesbian living in the center of that very mordor.

Ruby Mapa

You are a candle in the dark and your work is so valuable and important in these icky times. Take as much time as you need, prioritize your own health. I’m so grateful you exist in this world ❤️

Ted(dy)

the @ potus and @ vp accounts are essentially US government accounts that change to whoever is in office when they are in office. Natalie follows these accounts, as do many of us

Ted(dy)

I’m confident that the video will be worth the wait :)

Isaac Mac

I was pleasantly surprised by the tangents and bonus content. Its nice to get perks but supporting your work in any whatever form you choose has always been the goal. Take the time you need and I hope you can enjoy the process even in these dark days.

Rajan Singh

Take your time Natalie! We don't mind

Charlie Pac

the result being a video you've put a lot of effort and thought into makes any time line worth it.. love to just be watching one of your videos for 3 hours. best 3 hours of that day honestly

Sole Núñez Vettorello

Take all the time you need. I am happy supporting your work, whatever form it takes. I am only grateful for having the opportunity to learn from you and to find in your work tools to cope with the horrific reality we live in ♥️🙏🏼

Gaby Otero

❤️ take ur time can’t wait to see the outcome!

Julia Goyer

ur amazing and it’s okay 🫶🏻

shmoolikipod

Remember to take proper breåçaks and eat drink exercise socialize extra, don't burn yourself out. hope it's not condescending, I just know how I am with deadlines

Wesley

Thanks for being transparent! I of course am happy to support you regardless 🥰

Kevin

Natalie we love you and your visions so much, looking forward to it!

Sam Kearney

Also kinda wack that you have to pause Patreon when you go on vacation??? Like its so clear that you work harder and longer hours than almost every 9-5! And even if you didn’t you should be able to take paid vacation!

Mica Lewis

You’re like the anime character who has godlike powers but can only use them at great physical cost to her own body

Carlos Solano Matamoros

my PATRONage is secured no matter what, I can always rewatch Envy and Opulence 😍😍😍

Lily R

No worries!! Super excited for the new video :]

Void WL

Upgraded to $10, hopefully this is in time to get in the credits

livvy94

I really wish you could make lower-scope videos. They're just as lovely and thought-provoking, I swear 🙏

livvy94

I first subscribed in the worst years of the Trump presidency and we need that energy again. Production values are nice to have, of course (as well as a little overwhelming sometimes imo), but your spirit shines through everything you make, no matter what.

livvy94

Also, that said, please spend as much time as you need and prioritize your mental health and healing 💗

Oscar Q.

As much as this post just shattered my tiny little heart cuz I need Mommy to tell me how to think and because I’ve watched your videos to the point I can lipsync to them. Take all the time you need, Im willing to support you on the making of another masterpiece❤️🥹

Julian Sterling

Hey, hearing an update like this is plenty for me to continue throwing my pennies at you. Wish I had more to give and good luck with the process!

Elliot Theodor

"A woman needs a room of her own and some money if she is to write" - Virginia woolf. Keep at it I'm right here.

Chris Murphy

You’re great! Keep up the good work 😇👍😎

terrorist hamster

every video you release is a banger. take care of yourself! x

Sole Otero

Hello Natalie, I don't know if you already gave any opinion on Emilia Perez and I've missed it but I'm curious about what you think about the film. I was personally horrified by it. Thanks for being there. We'll wait what it takes for you to come up with new material. Saludos argentinos desde Francia.

Chiara

Hi Natalie! I've just became a Patreon, I've been following you since 2018 but I never had the money to be a patreon (I was a student), I'm just happy being able to do that now, take whatever time you need! ❤️

Ricki Bliss

Glad to find you active and producing awesome still!

Christine Hottinger

Ten days late, but does anyone else think Jon Stewart's recent fetish for cloches was influenced by Natalie? I'd never seen or heard someone explain them so strikingly and then a few weeks later he just dives in on cloches a few episodes in a row???

Mia The Black Kitty

Just joined your patreon, and, holy shit, there's so much stuff to go trhough (which I appreciate a LOT). For me, there's no need to pause it at all, mainly because I see it as a way to support you while you do your work, not necessarily to access it earlier, and the bonus content is just that, a bonus. Honestly, I'm just grateful to have the opopportunity to watch and listen to you talk, because it not only makes me think a lot about different topics in a more nuanced and introspective way, but you also help me a lot to develop my more academic-ish vocabulary as a non-native English speaker. Anyway, hopefully I'll be able to support you even in a few months! Much love ❤️

Autumn Cooper

Thinking about you obsessively in a non-threatening and deeply supportive way. Hoping for your wellness and that you’re ok as can be during this wild time. I hope you’re gettin through the days and finding spots of warmth and comfort and love. Smooch from Canada xox

Astrid Budolfsen

I have watched the Twilight video 3 times, and every time I had a new revelation. That is my favorite video. It put into words things I didnt have words for. It changed my life and my understanding of myself and other people.

Rhea Thiessen

i’m so excited for the video and happy to support you even without patreon content🩷

Tomek

Hang in there too, Natalie. Thank you for what you do!

Maddie Townsend

Gonna be your patron even fucking harder fuck that guy

Gaoth gwyntog gwen

I'll be backing down on patreon after next month I think but it's nothing to do with your content, it's just health insurance changes on my end. Good luck and thank you for all the work you put in! Take care

inhabitmoss

Girl you’re good I’m chillin

Ariel

mom just take our money u don't need to be productive, it's fine, when artists get grants & use it for rent instead of making what they said they'd make that still counts as arts funding lmao

RamblesAboutStuff

I'm amazed that you were able to produce so many high quality tangents anyway. Most YouTubers who claim to make "video essays" in fact make (usually lesser quality) versions of the type of videos you modestly call tangents. Yes, there hasn't been a main channel video since Twilight, but I got my money's worth. Of course, I can't wait for the next one, but I'll just be patient and rewatch a few tangents until then. Take your time.💜

JC

joined your patreon literally because i was worried you weren’t doing youtube anymore lolll. take all the time you need, we’ll always wait for you

Joseph Quigley (Figbot)

Big fan! If you ever need music for a video www.figbot.bandcamp.com this is my discography. Feel free to shoot me an email at figbot1@gmail.com

purpleforest

hi there! just wanted to say that I’ve been a big fan of your videos for years now, and last week my introductory political theory class at university (taught by a really cool nb young teacher) had one of your videos as recommended reading for the course!😊

Nicole Swedberg

Im sure it will be worth the wait as always.

Maria Pirson

worried about you, came here specifically to check if there have been any updates. love from the Netherlands

Eleni

I'm so excited for this video you have no idea....nobody on YouTube is doing it like you. The platform is so boring without your work

william kirkpatrick

hmmm.....I was locked out of this for a second and I was so upset. Turned out I just was signed out of youtube. I just watched the brilliant new episode of Some More News on the threat/conspiracy against trans people authored by an unnamed trans writer and I had to check out Cunt-piss. I want to say again because I can't help it I would love to see Satanism p2 where CP breaks down Baudelaire like she did Nietzche and other examples of positive satanists: Baudelaire, Crowley, Rosaleen Norton etc. instead of the satanic panic/Qanon fools' idiotic concepts in their world of idiots....but I cannot wait for the next Contrapoints youtube.

Ben

girl this is crowdfunding not crowdpayperviewing. we have chosen to give u cash. pls continue to take this cash. u rock.

shea Morgan

Cant wait for this video!

Evan J

I keep re-watching the Twilight video, and it's truly a masterpiece. I would wait years for another video like that. I subscribed as a way of saying thank you, not for any particular timeline or project. I truly think the Twilight video was the best you have produced. You will get no complaint from me if you continue to do long, in-depth videos.

Candice

I love you so much. Would you ever write a book? I found this Patreon because I was worried you weren’t making videos anymore. I’m so glad to hear you’re still making these amazing, informative, hilarious, and slightly petty video essays. ❤️ I’m so happy to be able to support you even in a small way!

Atomic Gusse

New subscriber to the Patreon but I’ve been a fan for a while from your YouTube video essays. After reading your message about The Situation from November and then this message today, I felt like I needed to say thank you. This past…oh my god, it’s only been two and a half weeks of this. Anyway, this past two and a half weeks has been one gut punch after the other, and I’ve felt hopeless and despaired nearly every day. Reading your words, though they were somber, were the first time I’ve felt marginally okay about anything. Not feeling complacent, but just less paralyzed by anxiety and fear. Your words were sane and realistic, and I didn’t realize how desperately I needed to hear someone recognize how terrifying this time is without then moving into doom-spiraling I’m so glad to be here, and will subscribe to the next tier the next cycle. I look forward to your future work, at your pace, and hope you are able to continue your work in the months and years ahead.

Laura Bea

FR, the twilight video is literally a masterpiece tbh

Nope

Theo Stratford

I’ve found Laverne Cox’s words to be realistic and honest but very encouraging too

inhabitmoss

Omg hi other Ariel. I don’t usually meet other ppl named Ariel

Max Oakland

Where can I read/hear Laverne's words?

Arben

Me checking your channel every day of February 🌚🤭💛

Yoda

same

Autumn Cooper

Hey girl, can you update us on how you are doing? (Personally, not the main channel vid). Hearing some really scary stuff coming out of the US from Canada and supremely worried about you.

Rose Dombegh

Same -- I need something good to happen, anything . . .

Rose Dombegh

Thank you! I've been looking for something like this

Rose Dombegh

Every day brings 10 new horrors . . . pray for us, we'll need it

Cookie

If the video comes out on Valentine’s Day I’m taking it as a confession 🥰

livvy94

Just sending you good vibes. We care about you, and the future will be better 🫂

Louie

Excited for the video! Trust the process 🫶

India

Natalie I need to learn!

Liam F

I have long been critical of the US, but I never ever expected such blatant disrespect and threats towards us from our Southern neighbour. If an alliance this close can be so casually called into question, if our own sovereignty can be treated like a joke, if our international friendship can so callously be treated like an extortion racket, I really worry about what the Trump administration is willing to do to America itself. In such a short amount of time they are causing so much damage and it's terrifying and gutwrenching to see.

Joseph Quigley (Figbot)

Hey Contra.. I’m figbot.. Not sure if you know who I am.. I’m a big fan… A member of “palutena main”? Don’t know if that rings a bell.. Anyway.. If you could contact me, I’d appreciate. I’m figbot@gmail.com, figbot5 on twitter, figbot1 on insta, and Joseph Noel Quigley on Facebook. Kind of involves an online stalking campaign involving Vaush and Destiny. Need a fellow comrade (perhaps tabby?) to smash. Hope to hear from you soon ❤️❤️💯💯🤙

Ann C

Me too.

Marian Alessandroni

It’s terrifying I may have to move up there. I hear it’s great.

Luc Gendrot

I suspect Natalie is being very hard on herself (and her doomscrolling thumb) these last few weeks. Eminently relatable of course, but I hope she knows that especially here we're more concerned about her well-being than a new video.

Gabriella

So excited for the video!

Sarah

Just here to say we’ll wait as long as you need us to, without complaint! Sending my love to you. This country has been a new level of hell this past month.

Rose Dombegh

It turns out Dante didn't get all the way down . . .

Callum Sheedy

Natalie - your voice as a thinker and commentator is really important in these times. Take the time you need to do the video justice. If it centers around American politics, like you've suggested, I think it will be well worth it to hear your thoughts and opinions. As things seem to worsen in the US by the day, I've been wondering what you might be thinking right now. Hope you're doing well and looking forward to the video. Stay strong!

william kirkpatrick

O God hurry up I need you. I seriously believe you are the young replacement for David Lynch and that is the level you are on. I am also a pianist so I have this whole new outlook on being able to play well and also write/speak well without being an established famous pianist, from your youtubes over the years; and also I believe that in a lot of ways changing people's bigoted feelings about trans people is a powerful symbol of anti-fascism because in many ways fascism is merely the attempt to blot out the beautiful the mothering the kind wise feminine nature that is within all human beings and instead worshipping a baseball bat with barbed wire tied tightly around it.

highclass_lady

FYI, there is a FAKE ACCOUNT pretending to be ContraPoints, & this fake account is replying to comments asking Patrons to email an email address that is not ContraPoints official business inquiries email in order to try to scam people. This account was created in February 2025 & does not have the official Patreon Creator verification flair. This fraudulent user spells their username "Contrapoints" without the capital P I made a report on the Patreon help center as well as blocked that impersonator. Someone else posted an alert about this on r/ContraPoints & I've left a comment there on how to report the fake account to the Patreon help center if you want to submit a report too. My comment also includes the url of the fake account which you can include in your report. Do not include the URL to the real ContraPoints Patreon. TO BE CLEAR, THE ISSUE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SCAMMER PRETENDING TO BE CONTRAPOINTS, NOT WITH THE OFFICIAL CONTRAPOINTS ACCOUNT SO MAKE IT CLEAR YOU ARE REPORTING THE FAKE ACCOUNT NOT THE REAL ONE.

william kirkpatrick

I want to add that I must reiterate what someone else said, that Natalie can take as long as she wants and I only hope I can come up with something to post 10% as interesting and relevant to everyone as a Contrapoints' next video and put it here. Strong feeling behind this.

AnyaVernal

I love you so much, no matter what ❤️

Edward

Very glad to support your next video. Keep at it.

Halcy

This national dumpster fire of a month we've experienced is enough to make anyone feel overwhelmed. Please take good care of yourself, Natalie, and do what you need to prioritize and support your well-being. Your videos are always worth the wait. 💖💖💖

Ann C

Natalie, I'm worrying about you and the other trans people in the US. I hope everyone is doing everything necessary to stay safe and sane. I feel sick about everything that's happening right now. I've taken to writing and calling my Congressional delegation at least weekly to express my outrage and fear.

Samantha Fieldman

Natalie, I'm sitting in my college's dining hall and they are making breakfast for dinner, and I am writing a paper on John Locke that is due in 4 hours while reading John Locke for the first time. I wanted to say that I am so happy to have watched you, so that I could be here right now. I love all that you have done for me, and I'm having so much fun writing this paper that I almost certainly will get a C on.

Audrey

good luck on your paper!

Angie B

Just jumping on here again to say I hope you're staying safe and sending solidarity and strength from across the pond. We'll get through these dark times. Your work is more important than ever and I'm so glad all of us here are able to support it.

Madelyn Crosby

hey, natalie! i know you don’t know me, and that i don’t (really) know you, but i’m sitting on my bed in my college dorm in southern michigan and i’m thinking about you and your work. the last thing i want to do is say something way too personal and get super parasocial on you. i have no idea what you are personally going through right now, but as a fellow transgender american i think i can guess what’s on your mind. maybe it isn’t super comforting, but i thought that i might share a few things with you that are keeping me going. i got a kitten in december. her name is esti (short for esther) and she is a black american shorthair. i spent the tail end of last october in hospital, but i am happy to say that i will be celebrating my 20th on monday. i’ve been on Testosterone for just over seven months. it’s been almost two years since i moved to michigan. my partner and i just celebrated one full year of officially being together. i’m set to work in a community garden in my college town this summer. i’ve recently decided that i want to study women, gender, and sexuality studies — not biology. i say this because i don’t think i would’ve felt this particular amount of passion for WGSS without the inspiration your work has provided. i share all of these things with the hope that it might bring comfort to you. maybe it won’t. hopefully, it does. i don’t really believe in prayer or anything like that, but you are in my thoughts. we have always been here. we won’t go away. love and strength to you. maddie

Helen

Go have a bath and take a nap. And have a walk tomorrow. Get a massage. Eat some good food. Take a break. I know you’re doing late nights again.

Trying my best

I personally feel that the entire idea of having a monthly Patreon rather than a pay-by-publish model is that the audience trusts your judgement on the time investment it takes to make a video. I disagree with a lot of the commenters saying they'd pay if you took a break as well - this isn't charity, obviously. We're paying you for your work. Godspeed, looking forward to the video!

Jeannot

Not only am I not expecting a pause, I upped my membership for the occasion. Good luck on the last stretch, mother.

thalia

your craft in its ripest form is absolutely worth it <3

Carol Foley

Your essays and tangents make me glad to be a supporter

Samantha Fieldman

Can we like, flood the comments with these? I feel like they're so sweet and alive and not focusing on what's wrong in the world so much.

Samantha Fieldman

EVERYONE FLOOD THE COMMENTS WITH NEAT LITTLE THINGS ABOUT YOUR LIVES (if desired, of course). I will go first: there's a building in Chicago that is made to resemble a battery (it's my favorite building here). I pointed it out and everyone in the car got so excited that we almost got into a (little) car accident in front of the Nutella Cafe.

Void WL

I’m so hype for the video

Twink Destroyer

Mother points, the hills are silent and the residents are evil

amesville

Hey, Natalie—checking in on you. Not for productivity purposes, just for caring. ❤️

amesville

Reading the source material while writing the paper due in hours is Peak College. 🫂 hope it went well!

amesville

I just got a new job and once I have a couple of paychecks under my belt (my poor savings account), I’ll be doing the same.

Ollie

Wait - which building is that? I know the Sears tower (only acceptable dead naming) is supposed to look like cigarettes coming out of the pack, but I don’t know the battery one

Kapelski

so, a march video then....?

M

We love you Natalie, keep going on what sparks within you!

Santiago de Nicolás

never would thought of unsubscribing. every penny is worth it and we are incredibly appreciative of your craft. take as much time as you need. queer hugs from madrid, spain!!!! <3

Sarah Slack

Do not underestimate my ability to wait for good art. 🖤🖤🖤

Grady Wiehe

A queen is never late, everyone else is simply early. That being said…sign of life, mother? 🥹

mink

no rush to get the video out, I'm fine with waiting. I really hope you're doing ok tho <3

Benjamin Dufault

Take as much time as you need. Would love a "here's where I'm at" post atm though, mostly because I hope you're okay.

Samantha Fieldman

the carbide and carbon building! i didn't know that about the sears :0

Allison Reneé

If I get the job I’m applying for this year I’m getting your highest Patreon tier mommy

Maria Pirson

Also went and upped my tier. Please stay safe. We love you so much

Sabrina Penna

I check in here once in a while, hoping I missed a notification. It really pleases me that I'm one of many. Parasocial love to you, Natalie, and to everyone else reading this comment. I was worried about you before the Twilight video came out; I'm worried about you now, but I hope you're just too busy working, that it doesn't make sense now to post a message when you're thiiiis close. In any case, as everyone keeps saying, we'll wait for you.

Manatee Publicist

FYI if you’ve spent the last 6 weeks playing candy crush and doing nothing else, every one of us would be thrilled to hear that. Everyone here and beyond is, unconditionally, on your team. And if they’re not lmk their address and I’ll throw a $5 egg at their house ❤️✌️

Gart Kundalini

hope natalie and anyone else who can read this is doing well... i bought tingsha and have been doing some sound meditation lately. suddenly i'm back into music in a way i haven't been since high school. suddenly i'm calmer and am too busy discovering artists i've never heard of to doom scroll. i hope everyone else can find the space to take a breath.

naur_body

oooooo i hope it’s a march video !! my brain feels like such soup these last 4 months or so since the election, im very much looking forward to seeing this whole shit show from a more intellectual perspective instead of the pure nonsense i feel right now.

Ethan Good

Checked in to see if I missed an update and just want to leave another note of support and encouragement. You've got this!

Veronica

Miss you Mother 🩷

e ♡

i'm sticking around no matter what i support u <3

Eleanor Maree

I love when natalie goes radio silent that's how you know she's cooking up a good soup for us to munch on

Aliya Miranda

After years of delivering essays that have literally changed the lives of your viewers for the better, you have well-earned our trust that this will be worth the wait and the funding. After the long wait for the Twilight video, it ended up being your absolute best video yet imo. A TWILIGHT video!! I have complete faith in you. I’m so excited for this one.

Austin Childress

Hope you’re well! I know you’re in crunch time, but we are all here rooting for you and your work!

Anna Seitz

Natalie, whatever you are working keep going! Sending all my excess positive energy your way :)

Void WL

Shit that’s fucking ominous

highclass_lady

Natalie, the New York City Ballet is coming to DC March 25th -30th performing Delibes' Coppélia! 🩰 You & your friends should totally go, take a night off!

RarelyOnline

Low key parasocially starting to worry Hope she's ok 🩷

Shasa

love you

Donnie Darko

Hey Natalie, hope you are well and you are surrounded by support. Missing your outstanding video essays. If you need to escape the US, we have a spare room in Brisbane. ❤️

Ziagg Dimensions

Love, we've got you. You know that, right? We have your back. If you ever come to Austria, we have a guest room. Sending lots of love - be kind to yourself.

Liam F

I don't blame you for the delays. These are wild times to be making political video essays. If it's on the topic of our current political woes, the details change and devolve day by day, if it's not, how are you supposed to even focus on it in the first place. Just take your time. I deluded myself into thinking this wouldn't be much worse than his first term -really bad of course, but a storm that can be weathered and damage that can be mended by the next administration- but this has sadly been a lot worse in so many ways. I honestly thought there would be way more infighting, especially between the MAGA movement, oligarchs like Musk, and neo-cons. I thought that things would burn hot and then burnout, and these alliances would just implode. I'm still hoping for that, but seeing the Republicans rally to defend the Trump and Vance's treatment of Zelensky as they extort him just days ago, and then watching the State of the Union yesterday and seeing Republican congress members chanting USA, cheering, jeering, and even chuckling at absurd lies and delusions spouted by Trump made me feel sick. I'm mortified by where things are going because things just keep reaching new lows. Even for myself, I don't have much saved up for rent, I've struggled to find a job in Toronto for months, and now it seems even more impossible because Trump wants to implode our economy seemingly to genuinely annex us, as insane and delusional as that idea is. I might have to cancel my Patreon as a broader cut to spending, but I'll definitely be back. I'll keep my Patreon active this month, at least, but here's hoping I find something very soon and stick around. I do ask that you don't pause your Patreon. You don't ask much from people, and we're all adults here. If we can't pay or choose to no longer, we can cancel on our own. Being unemployed right now also makes me realize just how much mental energy of mine gets siphoned away on this stuff, so I can't imagine trying to manage a personal project between it all. Take all the time you need, other things rightfully take priority right now. Wishing you the best in America from Canada.

Yasemin Elrabaa

Iconic opportunity to be the 420th comment on this post. I’ll take it. Life’s about the little wins or something like that

Courtney

Just wanted to say that I hope you’re doing okay. I mean, I know no one, especially trans people, are really OKAY under this administration, but I guess I just hope that you’re doing as well as possible. I hope you’re taking care of yourself and surrended by the care of friends and family as well.

Trol

Take the time you need. Hope you're doing well under the (gestures broadly).

Paris Langer

I live near Chicago and I have not seen the battery??? I gotta check it out! I have a neat thing in my life right now! I have a little jumping spider that I found in my bathroom a year ago and have been caring for her. She recently had about 40 babies and I’ve spent many hours making teeny enclosures for each one🥹

Noah Schulz

I went to a GA meeting and they said refreshing this app doesn’t count

zach

take your time :) <3

Abby

Sending you support and hugs friend - truly scary times right now <3

Josh

I hope you’re doing okay. I’m sure this video will be incredible! Do you think you can at least give us an update if it’s still not ready by mid-March?

mesaphone

it was not, in fact, a February video 💔 hope you're doing well, mother

mesaphone

quoth her twitter, "I have notifications off. The video is coming" maybe in the next couple of weeks

Fia

sending love 💕

Mina Y.

was just thinking about you (in a non-creepy parasocial way). I hope you’re doing well 🩵

Yasemin Elrabaa

you’re so edgy and cool, like all my antifa wet dreams have culminated in this moment

Matthew Peterson

i am so sad that the democrats sacrificed what they call democracy on genocide, protecting billionaires in a sheen of virtue, and demonizing russia and china. but please hang in there, we can all contribute to a resurgence of decency if the democrats won't do it.

Caio Cerruti

a patron here in the comment section has made a homophobic/transphobic remark in reference to aids. this is a queer virtual space. i advise other patrons to report them.

Stephanie Hobbs

The comment is still there but it looks like the account has been removed/ deleted

Cookie

So excited for the new video! Could you give us a heads up before upload so I can plan my little screening/premiere/watch party? 🎉🤙🏽🥳

Void WL

I’m so glad to hear that

Laura Bea

Thaaanks. I don’t have the evil Elmo site anymore so it’s hard to know what’s happening ahaha

Luca Cotter

I hope everything is okay❤️

highclass_lady

I reported that account to the Patreon help center, & I included screenshots of their vile comments in my report. I hope Natalie never even sees them.

Makenna Sullivan

Natalie you could take another year to finish this video and I’d still chomp chomp chomp it up. Just please remember we don’t give a fuck how long it takes, we’re here for your incredible creativity and brilliance whatever/however/whenever it’s delivered to our hungry little mouths

Benjamin Dufault

I wanted to report it, but I wasn't certain whether or not that would negatively effect Natalie's Patreon? Maybe I'm just used to how Facebook handles reporting in groups, but I thought I'd be cautious.

Jordan Samonski

Just thought I'd check in. Wishing you well wherever you are. Wishing everyone here well too. Yall take care. 🩷

Milan

feburary?

highclass_lady

Reporting is through the Patreon help center, as long as you make it clear that you are not reporting the official ContraPoints account, & include the name of the account you are reporting & URL to the account you are reporting it should not be a problem, because you are not putting the URl to ContraPoints you are putting the URL to the account you are reporting. On Patreon it's not a report button, it's a form you fill out. You can also upload screenshots as attachment files that you can include with your report. Here are some instructions on how to submit a report: If you're a Patron, logged in, to submit a report, go to the Patreon Help Center, click "Submit a request" Then select "I want to report suspicious activity" Then under the question "Are you a patron, creator, or neither? select patron & enter the email associated with your Patreon account (you can find which email you used by looking through your own settings). Then under "Please select the issue that best describes your situation" select "General" which will lead you to a 2nd drop down menu where you can select "I want to report a fake/suspicious account" For the "URL for the page you want to report" make sure you put the url for the account you are reporting, not the url for ContraPoints or the url for the page or post where the person's comments are. To access the url for the account that you want to report, click on their username on Patreon so it takes you to their Patreon user profile, then copy & paste the url for their account from there. DO NOT PUT THE URL TO THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL CONTRAPOINTS ACCOUNT. Remember the issue is not with ContraPoints, it's with another user in her comments section. The Patreon help center website where the form is that you are filling out will suggest "help articles" for you to read, make sure you do not accidently click on any of these or refresh your page or Patreon will erase everything you have entered into the form & you will have to restart your form & retype everything which is quite frustrating. I suggest backing up everything on your notes app so that you can re-copy & paste if that happens. For the "Subject" put what happened in a few words. For the "Description", again, I recommend typing your description into another place &/or having your description backed up so you can copy/paste in case Patreon website accidently erases it on you. Again, you can include screenshots of the comments left by the account you are reporting, & it is encouraged that you do this, as this emphasizes the username of the account you are reporting.

Benjamin Dufault

@highclass_lady thank you very much for the information!

Samantha Rhoads

We need your perspective and anti-shitlordery more than ever now. Will pay MORE to help fund any potential relocations or human rights defense funds you might need. (*Though I would love to know your take on how best to truly escape mango mussolini- flee, fight, or flee THEN fight digitally/economically?)

ryan rieffel

I live in fear and anxiety that Natalie might be unwell or dead. I mean living in america rn means living in fear so…. Mother please send us proof of life <3 I am chanting to the full moon for your safety 🙏📿🌕

Darren DM

Woop Woop Woop!!!!

Darren DM

Wow. Your chant actually worked!

James G

What teaser?

Sahm Puccinelli

Deadlines are antithetical to art. It's always worth the wait.

dreamer

Sooo, March 22nd is marked in my agenda ❤️ At what time should I be ready and in front of the tv, mother?👀

Raoul (just me)

Heyy.. hope everything is ok and going well!❤️

Simon

Kubrick and Lynch ?

Rachel Meade

Does anyone live in the Boston area and have an interest in some kind of Contrapoints discussion/ book club/ viewing parties? I'm envisioning some combination of watching and discussing the videos as well as possibly reading heavily referenced works that relate to particular videos. This site is useful for that last point. https://recommentions.com/contrapoints/books/

william kirkpatrick

you can watch HOOTS' channel Hoots, I just discovered because, real name Amanda Hootman, she narrated a documentary about Satanic Panic, I hope there is enough of Hoots to watch until Contrapoints is finished, a wonderful synchronicity along with I discovered this through her collaboration with Caelan Conrad who put out the youtube "J.K. Rowling: The Real Story" 9 days ago.

Noah Schulz

Mother doctor, doctor mother: I’ve watched the hunger five times and it’s no longer taking the edge off, I may have to start doing things much more utterly connected to real world issues to pass the time

Shunti Akku

THANK YOU, YOU!! I was beginning to get worried.

Liam F

Appreciate the kind messages! I'm still worried about the future, but I'm doing alright! Just signed onto a contract job yesterday at a tax firm through our tax season which will get me by in the meantime. At the very least, even if our economy implodes, there's always going to be taxes to file for whatever is left, haha.

Helen

That teaser? Bitch. That was the most thrilling sixty seconds I’ve experienced in a long time. I’m giddy.

Vi

Okay wig. So is it safe to say that Anita has been supplanted by Hillary for the Dark Mother title? Very OG Contra honoring.

Rachel Meade

Cool! I’m not sure how to private message on here. But you can email me at rachelmeade@gmail.com!

Lasha Bezhashvili

The mother has spoken! Thank you for showing me this ray of hope!

william kirkpatrick

I don't know why I am saying this, but I just noticed that anyone here can send Natalie messages directly and that means a lot to me. When I know what I want to say directly to her I can say it. This helps with the sheer agony of waiting for her next video. Plus I discovered Hoots, who has a few ingenius youtubes out and her partner/friend is quite a bit brilliant. They have delivered the most devastating takes on JK Rowling and also the Satanic Panic and how it is still going on

Rose Dombegh

Please know that most Americans (at least in my circles) think very highly of Canada and don't agree with any of the crazy shit he's suggesting ... we're so sorry!

Oscar Q.

True that cuz I’ve watched Envy so many times I knew the script from memory.

william kirkpatrick

until the master is finished: there is Hoots, Ziwe, Caelan Conrad, Bridgitte Empire on youtube.

Andrea

Did I miss the clue... Where does it say 22nd? (Sorry if I'm being stupid🫣)

dreamer

Haha, not stupid! I did not see the clue either, but the comments under the trailer on Contra's live channel are filled with people convinced it's the 22nd 👀 Since so many have come to the conclusion, I chose to trust them 😂😂

Andrea

Ah I see 😄

Sydney Owens

hey natalie! writing to let you know that vivian wilson mentioned you in her recent teen vogue cover story. pretty cool. we miss you!!!💖

Nikola

so it's coming tomorrow? clearing schedule.

Megan Jones

I was just reading about what is going on in the US at the moment. I know you’ve said before that you have a plan to leave if you need to but I fear that time is looming closer. Wishing you and the rest of the trans community continued safety in these uncertain times.

Larie P

hi Natalie, you've been pretty silent everywhere lately... worried about you 🥺 hope you're safe and well, despite the state of things. let us know how you are, if possible?

Julia Estornell

She just posted a trailer on her main channel! Not sure why it wasn't posted here, but I think that means the video is coming very soon.

The Bilderberg Group

People Baking the trailer think it's tomorrow. I want to believe

Autumn Cooper

‘Twas the night before contra points when all through the house. Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse; the stilettos were hung by the chimney with care, in hopes that saint Natalie would soon be there.

Richard Earley

Do we have any guesses on release times folks…? I’m in the UK so praying for something early, but it will probably be prime timed for US audiences… so could be a late night for me

brnabez

Love this comment lol

highclass_lady

Natalie just posted on BlueSky that the video is (likely) done but given the time it takes to upload she says it will likely be tomorrow!

Paul Stasch

Mother I’m so excited 🥺🥰

Najla

Give me it now

Najla

How long have I waited for your word, forever yearning As the days break like waves upon the shore How long have I waited for your touch, forever burning Lord, I cannot wait a single moment more For the stag stands triumphant on the hill His antlers rake lightning across the sphere One bright day I will come and I will kneel Within your boundless majesty so clear When will I awaken to your love, sleeping love As the day breaks like waves upon the shore When will I awaken to your touch, your sleeping touch Lord, I cannot wait a single moment more

william kirkpatrick

I deleted my former comments because I feel like nobody wants more than one paragraph in front of them from a stranger but I must say since it is hard for me to deal with waiting for Contrapoints I discovered Hoots and Caelan Conrad and Brigitte Empire and watched the 2 new Soderbergh films. She is now a few weeks behind when she said she would be done and that is understandable; I don't know why but there is some explanation. Art is crazy.

ts_babyjane

caelen is one of the funniest youtubers i've ever watched, tho i prefer the episodes about dharmann, stuff that is lighter. their deep dives don't hit as hard for me but that's just my taste.

ts_babyjane

lol if you're bored read Stag Dance by Torrey Peters

DaniloDaSelva

Almost the same here, except even one hour further apart from the US. (I'm writing from Switzerland.) Perhaps I'll manage to still watch it today, as my extreme DSPD comes in handy. 😅

Larie P

oh phew!! so relieved! thanks for the heads up ♥️

dreamer

Natalie just shared on Bluesky that the possibility of getting the video out before the sun goes down is small. So, the video will be probably out tommorow. ✨️

highclass_lady

Saw your post on BlueSky about rendering issues, again, it's okay Natalie, please try to get some rest & as good a night's sleep as you are able, I imagine you're feeling exhausted & overwhelmed from the stress, you've got this though, I hope you have good people there for you that you can lean on, & please be extra kind to yourself tonight 💝

Natalia Syrik

Please queen, get some rest. Go on a vacation, we will pay. You don’t even have to post the video this year… or ever. Please, let us pay your rent for the next 5 years. We love you! Drink water!!!

Lisa

I agree with everyone else. Please don't feel rushed. Take care of yourself and post the video when the technology is cooperating.

Rose Dombegh

Mother ... my pain is at a 10 ... I have so much homework and so little procrastination material ... But actually yes I agree with everyone else: please take your time and take care of yourself, sending parasocial love :)

Laura

Today I was chatting with my dad and I told him I was looking forward to Natalie’s upcoming video, I told him how she kept changing the deadline. He responded “oh so she has the exact same problem you do.” shame.

Sabrina Penna

Dear Natalie. I have the impression this video is one of the most difficult things you've done. I hope you love it. Take care of yourself, now that it's almost finished. We'll wait. No running with editing scissors. Thank you, in advance.

Ravenqueen

Dear Nathalie, know that we are all here because you’re work is life changing. Take all the time you need. YOU are what is most important. If you cannot make anything for the next 20 years, that is okay, i’ll keep supporting you for the all that you have given. I hope you are surrounded with loved ones, who love you when you fly and love you when you are on the ground, resting. With love ♥️🫀

The Bilderberg Group

Hey Natalie, I've got a lot of stuff this afternoon so if you don't get the video out it's not even a big deal, don't worry about it! Stay hydrated, love you gorge

Andrea

It's out! It's here!!

Jessica Wilber

Awesome work, as usual, and well worth the wait. Here's the thing: even the most virulent case of conspiracism (conspirititus, alternately?) are subject to alleviation and even a full cure. And the same goes for any strain of noxious ideology. But it's also true that appeals to reason and evidentiary refutation rarely suffice on their own - and often, alas, have no effect at all. What is usually required, imo, is an epiphany. And epiphanies can't be engineered.

Mattie

I love you🧡

Kitty Kat

I hope you stop pausing the patreon! We know you're working, and you deserve PTO!

martin corey

I just discovered you. You rock!

Alice R.D.

Love you Natalie, and I think a lot of people (me included) wouldn’t unsubscribe even if you didn’t post for a while as we like to support you!