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These days, there are more and more artists who draw comics using AI. An artist I really liked because I thought their drawings were amazing turned out to be AI.🥵 I wonder if the day will come when comic artists disappear someday? I just felt a strange mix of emotions and decided to write this down.이제는 AI로 만화까지 그리는 작가도 많아졌네요. 여태 엄청 잘그린다 생각해서 좋아했던 작가가 알고보니 AI였습니다. 🥵언젠가 만화작가도 사라지는 날이 올까요? 그냥 기분이 묘해서 끄적여봤어요.今ではAIで漫画まで描く作家さんも増えてきましたね。 今まで「すごく上手い」と思って好きだった作家さんが、実はAIだったんです。🥵 いつか漫画家という職業もなくなってしまう日が来るのでしょうか? なんだか複雑な気持ちになって、思わず書いてみました。

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니푄

Even though there are many more AI writers, I am still a fan of yours (NTR). It's a secret that you like pregnancy works. Why do you speak in English when you're Korean? Just because lol.

기무띵

잘 그렸다 싶어도 뭔가 이상할 정도로 작업속도 빠르면 AI더라고요ㅋㅋ AI가 만화작가를 완전히 대체하는 날이 온다면 그땐 만화작가만 설 자리를 잃은 건 아닐 거 같네요 글 같은 것도 그런데 어쨌든 만화도 아직은 사람이 더 좋은 영역이라고 생각합니다

laliberte

감사합니다. 응원을 들으려쓴글은 아니었지만, 매우 기쁘네요😍 이제는 AI가 사람의 터치까지 흉내내는것을 보고 놀라고있습니다. 진짜 엄청나네요

burry

so based

GuiltyKing

Same, AI has gotten shockingly good but it still and likely won't be able to do the unique. So your more skilled composition will likely be an impossible task for AI if it doesn't have an exact reference for the user. But yes the days of AI are coming rather soon I say.

laliberte

그러게요. 직접 만화를 그려보면 알수있는것들이 있는데 컷분할에서도 이제는 사람의 그것이랑 비슷해져서 구분하기가 힘들어졌어요. 잘 못그려도 저는 아직 사람의 터치가 좋습니다

laliberte

It seems like it's really time to start thinking about the things that AI still can't do!

니푄

멋있게 영어로 했는데 한글로 적어주시네요 ㅎㅎㅎ 좀더 자극적인 ntr임신작품을...파라다이스편 길고 취향에 딱맞아서 좋았어요 일주일에 2번씩 보는중

皮蛋 黑

我认为ai如果使用得当,确实可以创造出一些十分不错的作品,但是相对于人类的创作,我认为有一些神韵,思想是ai无法取代的,比如一个故事作者想让人从中了解什么东西,他的思想之类的,ai始终是辅助,无法完全了解人类,而且ai需要漫画家的作品来完善自身的不足,假如哪天漫画家真的消失了,那就代表ai不会再获得进步了。我曾经看过很多优秀的ai作品,但是里面的剧情之类的,还是由人来赋予独属于创作者的思想。总而言之我认为ai能不断的学习来完善自身的能力,但是那个能力仅限于人类的范围,我认为人类才是不断突破上限的原因,假如人类不再进步,ai的上限就被困在原地了,ai只是能够依靠他的学习能力来快速获得人类积攒的知识,但是从创造这一方面,还是需要人类不断突破。

Metal Cat

I don't think real artists will disappear completely. Yes, it's true—AI has become extremely good and can perfectly imitate the styles of other artists. And that is where the problem lies. AI-generated images and comics always have a certain sterile quality; they are too perfect, and as a result, they come across as unnatural.

GuiltyKing

One thing that AI won't be able to do is paneling I believe. As that inherently requires an artistic vision of how to tell a story theu the use of multiple panels. For example, a classic example is a manga where the top right panel shows a hat in the air, and as the panels move from right to left and up to down you watch the flight of the hat until it reaches the bottom where the MC falls into a river to catch it. Connecting imagines and telling a story by not showing something is likely where AI will fall short.

laliberte

人类发展了,人工智能才能发展”这句话我深有同感。 不过现在因为AI,普通水准的作品已经变得太常见了。 所以更需要只有人类才能拥有的创意灵感。 感谢您的精彩评论。😄

낌때낄

저는 사라지기 보다 사람들 사이에서 파가 갈릴거라고 생각해요 ai 작품이 완전히 주류가 되면 높은 퀄리티의 작품을 공장처럼 찍어 내겠지만 그 중에서도 수작업 작가님들이 있을텐데 ai 상관없이 재미만 있으면 그냥 즐기는 사람들과 사람이 손수 만든 작품을 더 좋아하는 사람들, 이렇게 파가 나뉘지 않을까 생각해요. Ai가 있기 전부터 유명하셨던 작가님들은 Ai가 성행해도 그렇게 큰 타격이 있을것 같진 않은데 한평생 만화만 그려온 사람들을 Ai로 그림만 흉내낸다고 따라잡을수 있는게 아니니깐 오히려 가치가 더 높아질 수도 있겠다 생각은 하고 있는데 잘 모르겠네요 사람들의 생각이 중요한데 사람들은 그냥 재밌으면 그만이라고 생각하니까..

Natedog

As an artist myself professionally, i think about this all the time. And some diffusion models are getting really good which is i guess a bit upsetting. But i also know from having to use ai with work, it cannot do what i can do and needs an intelligent hand. All this does right now in my opinion is give people woth ideas, but not skills, a chance to make stuff to a degree. But it doesnt ever translate to any real or emotional depth without significant iteration and deep thought about ideas and concepts, much of your work is emotional charged and very creative in the ways you can manipulate and play with an idea, and that understanding of what is in the core concept of these ideas and how its effectively communicated, ai tools simply cannot do. And my gut tells me they never will be able to. Because all of it requires as king the right questions and then the power is in the communication, the organization and delivery of a message or idea. Using ai to code and make tools to speed up animation, is great and takes unnecessary tedium out of my work, and its very useful, in themat regard i have more energy to spend on the delivery and higher level concepts. But it means i can become less effective in another area if i relied on it too much. Long story short, tldr: I think you will be even more needed than ever, the slop feeders and con artist still need people to feed off of as they cant translate new ideas and concepts to monitize like people who can create and iterate with style and writing can. Artist is more than how well you can draw a circle or a line. But thats my opinion. To me, AI isnt the problem, its how you use it and apply it that makes all the difference.

laliberte

파라다이스를 좋아해주셔서 감사합니다. 개인적으로도 좋아하는 작품입니다 😄 다음달 작품을 아마 마음에 들어하실것같네요! 기대해주세요 ㅎㅎ

laliberte

in the end, whether it’s the art or the story, we still need to leave some trace of humanity in it! And that ultimately comes down to creativity, right? I guess I’ll have to imagine even more things from now on.

laliberte

사실 맞는말이예요. 재미가 우선이니까! 결국엔 살아남는 사람은 살아남겠죠 예전에 2페이지 NTR챌린지하듯이 그렸던때가 있었는데 그때 여러가지로 상상력을 키우는데 도움이됐어서 다시 부활시켜야할지 고민입니다. 항상 시간과 체력이 문제네요

laliberte

That’s a really great comment. I also think it’s impossible to go against AI. As you said, AI can be used as an efficient tool, and with the time saved, we should focus on producing the creativity and emotion that only humans can create! For example, if AI handles the background work in comics, we can concentrate more on creating richer and more interesting storylines or characters. Thank you for the excellent opinion.

Jian Yang

I don’t think comic artists will disappear. People will come to support an artist they like whether there’s already an AI that copies their design. The biggest issue with AI art compared to a real Artist is just the amount of content and how much they charge content for. AI can easily output drawings, regardless that typing prompts is difficult and the more work it produces, the higher the chance it is that it’ll mess up. It might take a few months for you to finish work, but it’s a connection with your audience that creates real support. You’ll come to find people would rather support you for your connection and original content rather than a AI artist who’s trying to make quick cash.

Lil

Ai가 더 발전하고 있고 실제로 좋은 작품도 많이 만들고 있다고 생각은 합니다. 하지만 전 작가님의 그림체 뿐만 아니라 성실함,소통,아이디어 등 전체적인 진심에 팬이 되었어요. 충분히 걱정되실 수 있지만 너무 깊게는 안 하셨음 좋겠네요😄

皮蛋 黑

是的,AI最出色的就是学习能力,只要有够多的学习资料,他就会马上把自己拉升到一个行业的一般水准,前提是人类赋予他学习的资料,但问题是人类最大的特点就是独一无二的创造性,人为什么能站在所有生物的顶点,就是因为其独特的创造性,从一开始生物链最底层的人猿被天敌恐猫猎杀,到发现石头可以投掷出去,再到使用火焰,制造工具,制作武器,抱团狩猎,进化出独特的汗腺散热功能,再到狩猎动物创造出衣服使自身保暖,再到建立部落,发展成国家,甚至连AI都是人类创造的,所以我认为没有必要对人工智能的发展会对人类造成什么影响,反之他是一个人类制作出来很好的工具,比如一个作家,他的写作能力很优秀,但是他的画图能力不行,合理使用AI能够把他的优秀的写作能力加上AI的画图能力,创造出一个单靠原本作家自己创作不出来的作品,所以我认为AI是一把双刃剑,他既能辅助人类创造出优秀的作品,也能节约人类的工作量,甚至你可以通过AI去学习很多知识,举个例子,比如说下围棋,但同时也会遏制人类创造力的发展,比如目前的围棋棋手都在学习AI的下法,但是我认为围棋应该是自由自在的,AI太好用了,可能会让使用的人过度使用AI导致人类自身的进步变慢甚至退步,但是AI说到底还是人类创造出来的工具,我认为利弊在于使用者本身而不在于工具的问题,使用得当他能提升你的创造效率,过于滥用可能会使你的创造能力下滑甚至不愿意进步,所以我认为决定权只在于人类不在于AI,比如我自己是更喜欢人类创造出来的作品,但我也不排斥优秀的AI作品,未来或许是人工智能的时代,但是他只能是人类的工具,无法代替人类。

선생 N

아~ 제 생각은 그렇지는 안을거같아요 AI가 아무리좋아도 기존에있던 그림체를 기반으로 제작하기에 새로운 그림체는 나오기 쉽지않을거같아요 나온다고 해도 이상할 가능성도있고요 제가 봤을때는 AI는 보조적인것으로 정착할거같습니다. 그러니 작기님은 걱정 안해도 될거같습니다.

Jaden123

I’m sorry but anyone that calls AI art good doesn’t understand and appreciate the hard work behind drawings from these artists. AI ART IS SOULLESS. No matter how advanced it gets — it can never replicate the unique aspects of artists drawings. Think about it - Nearly all AI art looks the same yet hand drawing is so unique among ever artist

Jeff E

I feel the same way

Hemhhe888exe

Oh, Lali. It’s unlikely there will ever be an AI that mimics the originality of your stories or the way you work and interact with your audience. You surely followed that artist for the ideas and concepts they conveyed, beyond just their specific artistic style. In the same way, many of us here follow you for the ideas and concepts you share, and not solely for your art style.

KuroganeTikki

XDomiKami does very crazy work. With my knowledge, I obviously know it's AI, but it looks crazy good. Only if you look closely, most of the time the fingers are wrong, but not in every picture. Some people are way too good.

pr0dukt

i don't know, i still like your art better than anything AI has produced thus far, same with TerasuMC, Ratatat47, and a few other top shelf style profiles... even the LoRAs that people trained to imitate your art style don't even come close the real thing imo.... There is just something of a feeling or vibe that the human touch of a good artist produces that AI can't really imitate yet... its hard to put into words, but its definitely there when you're consuming the material... Ether way, i don't think you'll find an issue staying on top as long as you are keep that passion lit in productions... AI can keep riding on your coattails in the meantime. 😌