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There seems to be some confusion on the state on NM+V3. My fault for not publicly addressing it and only mentioning it in the Patreon chats.

No Mercy Plus V3 is basically finished in terms of additional content.
"OPEN" indicating that it's free for anyone, no paywall.
"OPEN BETA" remains in the title due to a few reasons:

1. Some move reversals result in a double chop animation:
This is a simple fix, I've been fixing the few that cause this over the months as people report it. It's caused by leaving "0000" for their reversal IDs. These should all be fixed, I just need to post an updated .zip

2. Only on console: White screen lockup sometimes after visiting Smackdown Mall and playing a match:
Still trying to locate the cause for this. Tough because it's harder to bug test on console, especially when the issue is ONLY on console. To me, not a huge deal but certainly not being neglected.

3. The complexity of the save data eventually failing:
Some of the new features to the game require additions to the save data. Expanding the save data significantly has caused the file to corrupt sooner than the original game eventually did.
This is difficult to address due to the complexity of the flashram save routine.
The issue with both the original game and NM+, is that flashram writes save data to the end of the file each time. The limit is 128kb. Once it fills up, it'll corrupt at any point. It happens much sooner on NM+V3.
The solution is to rewrite the flashram save routine to overwrite/replace existing data to static locations on each save. Although I have assembly instruction writing "by the balls", the flashram routines are very challenging. This issue remains on ECW and any other project I start until I figure it out.

I have not abandoned the few NM+ issues listed above, I attempt to better understand and fix them a few times each month. Each session can last up to a few days straight. It's tough and sometimes overwhelming.

I'm one person, learning as I go. I'm not perfect. I'm a passionate creator who found support on Patreon with occasional help from our small community.

Should I stop everything and only focus on these issues until I fix them?
I tried this and it leads to burnout, fast. No progress. That's not how I learn and adapt.
I continue forward and return to ideas and issues as I learn more.

"OPEN BETA" will be removed from the title of No Mercy Plus V3 when I feel the issues are resolved. Until then, make an occasional backup of your save file if you don't want to lose anything. Besides the few reasons above, V3 is basically done.

When I start on Backlash, I'll release ECW:Born to be Wired publicly as an "OPEN BETA". The new features I'm adding to ECW and Backlash will be added to "No Mercy Plus V4" in the future, not "V3". Adding the features aren't a quick process by any means. Unfortunately, I can't just drop them in.

I hope this clears up any confusion on the state of NM+. Thank you for reading if you made it this far.

Comments

Paul McKinney

Thanks for clarifying. Haters gonna hate, but at least now we can point them here.

Crusader

Thanks Randy for everything you do for this community.

LynxZMB

Thank you for addressing this. I had assumed you placed NM+ on the back burner for your other projects since it was still labeled as 'Open Beta' for a long while. NM+ was essentially why I stayed along for the ride.

Benzilla

Thanks for the info! Please know any questions I had were just for clarification/understanding. And in my limited way, trying to be helpful. I always thought the save file bug on No Mercy was due to a certain percentage completion on Championchip mode. I have an OG No Mercy cart that still saves and it's not a USA-01 model. I make characters and updates all the time, bur won't touch the championchip mode.

Benzilla

I also was going through the Championship mode with like 3 or 4 CAWs made trying to unlock every path for fun and hit the bug on NM+. I didn't even get to finish all the paths for the WWF Championchip. So I started over. I have made all my CAWs names and attires, minus their moves and parameters, and I am still good. I used the Z Unlock code for all the Mall items. My Championchip status is zero for all paths.

Retro Randy Price

No problem at all. I appreciate it. The main post here is public, mainly for the ones who follow but aren't Patrons. I can also direct new questions on the matter here rather than re-explaining in chats lol.

DJ Mikey

I don't know if the explanation if going to satisfy everyone, but i think most of us appreciate you addressing this. I think this is going to help alot.

TezzyDaKing

My Main concerns were the saving issue & whether the additions of things like the table features, & blood mechanics of ECW would be added to NM+ I love the new ways the models in game get cut & show the damage of blood in ecw so I was wondering and hoping that would be something we get.

Retro Randy Price

Thinking about this again, there is a notorious save bug on the original game in championship. There's complaints from players over the years online. It happened to my son on a European path. The Champion came out as "Albino Rock" (all attire parts set to 00), game crashed and on reset the save file was wiped. I haven't been able to recreate it to test why it happens. Seems to only happen in certain scenarios. Not sure if it happens in other paths as well.

Retro Randy Price

Do you recall how far you were on the WWF championship path, around what percentage? Also when the bug happened, did it just stop saving data/stuck where it was or did it wipe the data completely?

Benzilla

I finished the All but Jericho's path, with Austin's being my last. I went and did all the branches for Rocks Path, HHHs path (Andre and HBK) I did Foleys path, and Austin's. And then I noticed it stopped saving. I didn't lose everything, It was just done saving.

TaterTot

Seems reasonable to me. Do you think there could be a potential save data corruption workaround by using some sort of emulator save function? Similar to save states on many emulators. I might just be talking bollocks though I have no idea about this stuff.

Retro Randy Price

I need the save data to work on console, not just emulators so no emulator workarounds. I might have found a solution, we'll see how feedback is on the next ECW preview.

Eythyn

Hey Randy! I'm still yet to try your WWF No Mercy final version. I really am so keen but I'm hopeless with tech and getting this all set up. I will always support you on pateron so don't worry! I just need to confirm. I have an Everdrive X7 for my N64 for these things. Now to make sure I don't get a black screen and use this properly. How do I set this mod up? I know I have the read me but I'm hopeless with these things. I don't have an expansion pak for my N64 either, but do I need one? Also how do I patch the mod properly and which link is the final beta to download for the full product? Again I apologise for my inconvenience. I'm not very computer savy sorry Randy. I hope to hear from you soon! Thank you for all the wonderful work that you do for us. Kindest Regards Eythyn

Retro Randy Price

The read me states that expansion pak is required. It also says as clear as I can state, how to set it up. I don’t know how else to explain it than what’s in the “read me” and the “read me for patch”. My advice would be to take it one step at a time and once you get it you’ll realize how easy it was. The read me also states how to get past the black screen issue. Since you don’t have an expansion pak, you could play it on PC with Project 64.

Retro Randy Price

This would also be better viewed in the general previews community chat, rather than here as it doesn’t exactly pertain to the subject and you might get help from various people.

Tru

I cant wait to try V3. Dude, you are one man and I understand. You do amazing work. Hope you get it fixed

Rob Berryman

hi I have the summercart 64 and followed the steps but I still just get a black screen. im baffled. im 100% not tech savvy but I managed to put other roms on it etc and they all play fine. i downloaded a NM v1.0 and patched over it but still no joy. i dont know what to do?

Retro Randy Price

Rob, please ask this question in the community chats or in a DM. It's likely that you're just missing a step. This post is about clearing up confusion on the status of NM+, not meant for technical help.